Who else has a bad syncro???

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Who else has a bad syncro???

Post by chris1211 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:20 pm

Who else has a bad syncro my 2nd is shot I thought id never be able to shift normal again unless I got a new tranny and then a friend showed me how to shift better I can slam it in 2nd gear when I need to with ease no grind no nothing just feels like a perfect shift
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Post by hotrodlarry » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:46 am

I have a bad 3rd gear sycnhro. Takes a lil longer to go from 2nd to 3rd, and I can't downshift from 4th to 3rd with out going into 2nd first.I'm used to it and can drive the car without grinding gears.

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Post by chris1211 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:59 pm

Ya I had to drive like that for ever if you slam the clutch and shift at the same time ir will go in just fine and I mean slam it
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Post by chipdogg » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:39 am

Lol, that's good for the trans and clutch.

Looking forward to future posts complaining of broken crap and blaming the "crappy neon" when you refuse to fix the problem ahead of time.
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Post by chris1211 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:17 am

Its not that im refuseing its that at this point Im getting a first geb and dgaf the 2gn is ganna sit in the back yard until I do the srt swap
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:08 pm

I'd swap that phone too. :lol:
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Post by chris1211 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:10 pm

Ugggghhhhhh 1st gen!!!!
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Post by chew* » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:20 am

I thought I had a bad sync in 2nd and 3rd......

Turns out that I cracked the shift selector inside the transmission and had bent the roll pin for the shift linkage.....

While I was in there I also replaced the shift linkage seals and shimmed the detent ball.

Also found a worn TOB, fork and pressure plate on an otherwise good clutch.
I replaced TOB and fork but eventually the clutch will have to go because of the pressure plate.

Of course the only way to find out is to remove and inspect, not keep driving it till it dies completely and costs more money to fix in long run.
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:43 am

Wel the car is sitting now lots to fix so slowly getting it done
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Post by chipdogg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:37 pm

I have 4 new 1-2 synchro assemblies, complete with fibrides and everything. $150 each. Fibrides not available seperately, chrysler doesn't even offer parts for it.
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:38 pm

I got a tranny for it
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:13 pm

I got a tranny for it
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Post by Adam G » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:55 pm

did you get a tranny for it?
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:57 pm

Ya got 1 from a junk yard
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Post by Danteneon » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:06 pm

I have a feeling you got a tranny for it.
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:33 pm

Is the feeling in the pit of your stomich
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Post by chipdogg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:40 pm

I'll take your old one.
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Post by chris1211 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:44 pm

All sell it lol
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:49 pm

No, he will recondition it, and then sell it.


Edit did that "all" mean "and" or "I'll" ?
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Post by chew* » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:11 pm

chipdogg wrote:I have 4 new 1-2 synchro assemblies, complete with fibrides and everything. $150 each. Fibrides not available seperately, chrysler doesn't even offer parts for it.
Save those parts for people that won't "waste" them.

Ever come across a cracked shift selector chip?
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Post by chipdogg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:05 pm

chew* wrote:Save those parts for people that won't "waste" them.

Ever come across a cracked shift selector chip?
Eh, I'll save them for people who aren't too cheap.

As for a cracked shift selector, no. BTW, what are you calling the "shift selector"? One of the forks? Or the steel box thing that actually moves the forks and sucks to line up when putting the trans together?

This thing:

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I gotta box full of these, I don't think they wear out. :laughing3:
occasional demons wrote:No, he will recondition it, and then sell it.
Yup, I'll make it look like this:

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And it'll shift even better than it looks. :rockon:
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Post by ZeroChad » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:21 pm

I blew the 3rd gear synchro in my car slamming into gear at about 8500rpm. Shoulda waited for the engine to slow down a little.

You really don't need the synchros, you can drive fine without them provided you shift into gear at the appropriate rpm...won't even make a noise. You just have to be quick about it.
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Post by chipdogg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:28 pm

ZeroChad wrote:I blew the 3rd gear synchro in my car slamming into gear at about 8500rpm. Shoulda waited for the engine to slow down a little.

You really don't need the synchros, you can drive fine without them provided you shift into gear at the appropriate rpm...won't even make a noise. You just have to be quick about it.
Your first statement makes no sense, it doesn't matter how fast the engine is spinning, when you press the clutch in, it completely disconnects the engine from the transmission (if working right). Then you can shift. The synchronizer slows down/speeds up the input shaft to match the speed it needs to be (matching the speed of the tires since the output shaft is ALWAYS connected to the tires).

As for not needing the synchros, it's true, you just have to shift it right. Downshifting won't work well, but upshifting will. When you shift to the next gear up, the input shaft has to slow down, which it naturally does due to drag of the gears, oil, etc. But when you downshift, the input shaft has to speed up and there's no way to do that without a synchronizer.
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Post by chew* » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:59 pm

chipdogg wrote:
chew* wrote:Save those parts for people that won't "waste" them.

Ever come across a cracked shift selector chip?
Eh, I'll save them for people who aren't too cheap.

As for a cracked shift selector, no. BTW, what are you calling the "shift selector"? One of the forks? Or the steel box thing that actually moves the forks and sucks to line up when putting the trans together?

This thing:

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That would be what I cracked. I was using the term shift selector loosely as its quite a bit different from the T-850.

I had a spare from the trans that tossed the diff pin and nuked gears so I used that one.....

Only thing I can think is maybe it wasn't in perfect when I assembled it because it sucks to line up as you said.

It was causing all kinds of issues. The weirdest being after a run from a dig you could barely get the car in any gear at all unless you shut car off and restarted it, then worked shifter through all gears a few times with clutch in.
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Post by chipdogg » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:45 pm

Weird, they are pretty thick and don't really have alot of force put through them. It basically sits still, the whole housing pivots one way or the other (when crossover level is moved) and then the middle part goes up and down to move shift forks.
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Post by chris1211 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:11 am

It was ment to be I will sell it
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Post by chipdogg » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:25 am

How much? Its not worth much since very few people can fix it, and parts are hard to find and expensive.
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Post by chris1211 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:34 am

I wouldnt ask much maybe 70 plus shipping
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Post by chew* » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:45 am

chipdogg wrote:Weird, they are pretty thick and don't really have alot of force put through them. It basically sits still, the whole housing pivots one way or the other (when crossover level is moved) and then the middle part goes up and down to move shift forks.
Now that I think about it this trans was in a car that got hit hard at 32K.

I installed and pulled it back out same day due to a bad output shaft bearing on pass side ( likely caused by accident on pass side ). It's very possible that maybe it hairline cracked in that accident. Maybe driver braced himself with shifter.

Anyway I might have missed it when I replaced all the bearings in trans.
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Post by Adam G » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:54 pm

chris1211 wrote:I wouldnt ask much maybe 70 plus shipping

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