4 speed ATX Gear swap?

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4 speed ATX Gear swap?

Post by 05neon97 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:56 am

I have an 05 neon, it's the 4 speed. Don't want to do a manual swap and I've heard you can swap gears out of a dodge minivan/2.0 stratus into the a604 In the neon if they have the same transmission. Supposedly the way they're geared it would give my auto neon better acceleration. Is it true?

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Post by timk225 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:22 pm

I don't know.

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Post by occasional demons » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:39 pm

^^^ Lolz!

A604 = 41te/40te

All 41te/40te's have the same gearing for all years produced, regardless of what they were put into. All the individual gearing, and FD is the same.

The speedometer reading is corrected in the TCM/PCM via the pinion factor setting.

Which is only really relevant if you swap in a new/different TCM. Or drastically change the tire size.
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Post by 05neon97 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:40 pm

So what could be done to increase acceleration? Keep in mind I'm not doing MTX for a long time, i dont know if I ever will. Any suggestions?

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Post by Gnuserup » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:55 pm

Add Autostick
a neon - what else ?

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Post by INVUJerry » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:16 am

Gnuserup wrote:Add Autostick
Autostick wont help acceleration, that is limited by the gearing and torque converter.

Honestly, there's not a whole lot you could do short of a forced induction for your car.
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Post by Danteneon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:35 am

14" wheels with 195/60 tires and reduce the weight of the car by 750lbs or so.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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Post by occasional demons » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:48 am

Is that 75 pounds maybe? :lol:

195 60 14's are also a bit shorter, which will help the overall gear ratio also.

While maybe slightly heavier, 195 50 16's will also boost the ratio for acceleration, but you may get a bit better grip and handling/steering response.
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Post by Danteneon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:49 am

Nope, 750lbs. That will yield a difference to acceleration you can really feel.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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