Tabs on TOB

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Tabs on TOB

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:07 pm

Was very upset since they were broken on my new one. Are they even needed, there are some people saying they are not needed? You would think you would need the TOB to be attached to the clutch FORK though


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Post by akirony » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:02 pm

I've been told they're for install only so your not fiddling with the tob the whole time, but otherwise they make no difference on or off.
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:07 pm

Been quite a bit of discussion.
They keep the TOB riding on the fingers evenly to be sure the even pressure is applied. Also bringing the bearing back with the fork after you release clutch.... The bearing rides on the input shaft bearing and there is not a whole lot of slack between the two. Probably be more rattles. But won't hurt anything. Leaning on ordering a new one, just to be on the safe side.

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Post by JeffB#2 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:07 pm

They ARE an assembly aid only. Some tabs are plastic, some are thin sheet metal. The fork keeps the bearing riding on the fingers on the pressure plate, not the tabs. There is no real "return" for the bearing by the tabs. The pressure plate fingers are spring loaded and will push the bearing back. By intentional design, the bearing will always have some kind of light contact with the pressure plate fingers. You won't notice rattles from a lack of tabs. You'll always notice rattles from the springs in the clutch disc LONG before you'd hear a throwout bearing rattle, if it even did rattle.

My old Chevelle has linkage rods on a z-bar for the clutch pedal and a spring to pull the exposed end of the fork towards the front of the car when the pedal is not being pushed down. This DOES pull the bearing off of the pressure plate. That's how clutches used to work and some still do. But the Neon's system isn't like that.
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Post by chipdogg » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:08 pm

Not needed. Once the TOB is installed, it always rides against the clutch fingers and is snug against the fork since the clutch cable/slave cylinder puts some pressure against the fork towards the clutch. For install only.
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Post by akirony » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:12 pm

The trans gurus have spoken (typed)!
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:49 am

Thanks for the input guys. I ended up ordering a another one just to be on the safe side. So if anyone needs a new SRT-4 Mopar TOB, I will sell it for cheap. :lol:

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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:53 pm

So is it a good idea to have them when installing? I mean I could put it in there, are there negatives or things to watch out for when installing it without the tabs? Chance of anything going wrong?

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Post by JeffB#2 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:49 pm

Nothing to worry about. Slide it onto the fork (if there are clips left), slip the bearing over the input shaft and snap the clip in the fork over the pivot ball. Done.
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