Replacing my PT clutch with an SRT-4 clutch
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Replacing my PT clutch with an SRT-4 clutch
I'm getting ready to swap out my 2.0 turbo engine from a 2.4 with a 50 trim. My current unknown mileage PT clutch started slipping towards the end of summer after running 14 psi for months. I intend to use a turned down SRT-4 clutch in my hydraulic T350.
Does anyone around here have personal experience with this setup? I used an srt clutch in a 1gn with the cable setup many times and really didn't like the feeling of stepping on a wet towel every time I pushed the clutch pedal down. Is the hydraulic setup any better than cable?
Does anyone around here have personal experience with this setup? I used an srt clutch in a 1gn with the cable setup many times and really didn't like the feeling of stepping on a wet towel every time I pushed the clutch pedal down. Is the hydraulic setup any better than cable?
'04 SX 2.0T 5 speed
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
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Nope. The biggest factor IMHO, is the pressure plate. Personally I don't see a huge difference between the cable and hydro general feel. What I have found is the clutch assy is what either gives you good or bad feedback.
The Stratus 2.7 clutch I have is worlds better on feel than the Banhoff stage 1. At least you know that the Stratus clutch is hooking, and when. The Banhoff, is like driving with a numb leg. You don't know if it is actually gripping or not. Both are 3.55 MTX's.
The Stratus is in the cable actuated, and the Banhoff is in the hydro. BUT the Banhoff was in the cable set up first, and I can tell you it was no different, even with the advantage of 3.94 gears. I think a wet towel would be an improvement, it is more like jello.
I have never driven an SRT, So I couldn't tell you how it compares to the Stratus 2.7 pressure plate on pedal feedback. The 2.7 takes much more effort to push than a regular neon clutch. But it is also not a killer for city driving.
The Stratus 2.7 clutch I have is worlds better on feel than the Banhoff stage 1. At least you know that the Stratus clutch is hooking, and when. The Banhoff, is like driving with a numb leg. You don't know if it is actually gripping or not. Both are 3.55 MTX's.
The Stratus is in the cable actuated, and the Banhoff is in the hydro. BUT the Banhoff was in the cable set up first, and I can tell you it was no different, even with the advantage of 3.94 gears. I think a wet towel would be an improvement, it is more like jello.
I have never driven an SRT, So I couldn't tell you how it compares to the Stratus 2.7 pressure plate on pedal feedback. The 2.7 takes much more effort to push than a regular neon clutch. But it is also not a killer for city driving.
Bill
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2.7 clutches are getting a bit rare now. Not seeing any online and buy local will cost me $500+.
The SRT-4 is as normal to drive as a stock neon. I have found the SRT clutch to be too stiff in a 1gn.
The SRT-4 is as normal to drive as a stock neon. I have found the SRT clutch to be too stiff in a 1gn.
'04 SX 2.0T 5 speed
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
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There is a 2.7 clutch on ebay right now...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-K70296-01 ... 19&vxp=mtr
Also Adam Lepole is selling a turned down SRT clutch with 21,000 miles on 2gn FB page for $200 + shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-K70296-01 ... 19&vxp=mtr
Also Adam Lepole is selling a turned down SRT clutch with 21,000 miles on 2gn FB page for $200 + shipping
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WTZ FTW on the .org is also selling a used 2.7 for a decent price. He may ship to Canada. The clutch is going to feel just as stiff in a regular 2gn as it does for a 1gn. Like I said, I can tell no difference between my '99 and my '01 with the same clutch assy.
Maybe if you use the SRT pedal, that might make a difference? Other than that, the master and slave cylinders might be different sizes which will affect both effort, and travel.
But if you thought the SRT assy was too stiff in a 1gn, it will be no different in a non SRT 2gn. Unless the 1gn's cable was binding...
Maybe if you use the SRT pedal, that might make a difference? Other than that, the master and slave cylinders might be different sizes which will affect both effort, and travel.
But if you thought the SRT assy was too stiff in a 1gn, it will be no different in a non SRT 2gn. Unless the 1gn's cable was binding...
Bill
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
2021 Forester
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCMOlha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.
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2021 Forester
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he WAS. it's en route to my houseoccasional demons wrote:WTZ FTW on the .org is also selling a used 2.7 for a decent price.
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Gratz!
Bill
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
2021 Forester
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCMOlha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
2021 Forester
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Should go good with my SRT swap i'll be doing.
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I think my biggest issue was the clutch dragging due to the adjustor not being completely solid. I will attempt the srt cluch anyway and see how well it works.
Worst case scenario, I'll have to bite the bullet and spend the money on a real aftermarket clutch.......or give the Getrag G288 a shot. I have the trans, pedals driveshafts and everything needed to convert except for the clutch which is $600 due to me not having the required flywheel for it.
Worst case scenario, I'll have to bite the bullet and spend the money on a real aftermarket clutch.......or give the Getrag G288 a shot. I have the trans, pedals driveshafts and everything needed to convert except for the clutch which is $600 due to me not having the required flywheel for it.
'04 SX 2.0T 5 speed
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
Looks like there WAS a 2.7 clutch for sale on E-Bay.....sidepipe87 wrote:There is a 2.7 clutch on ebay right now...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACHS-K70296-01 ... 19&vxp=mtr
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I've got a line on a Clutchmasters Stage 4 for $250. I might jump on that one. Just gotta come up with the money. I am doing a 5.0 swap in my ranger in a week so I spent all my spare change on that project.
'04 SX 2.0T 5 speed
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
'98 2.4 3 speed 50 trim drag car 12.1 1/4 mile
'94 Ranger 4.0 swap 5 speed (tow vehicle)
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5.0 Ranger... aha! I just put 2 and 2 together. Patryk?
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