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alright so i got some of my parts for my srt build i just need some help with some things

currently i have

the srt turbo and mani
stock ic
a fuel return
o2 pipe
stage 0 injectors (not sure if i need them yet)
and thats it.... i also have either the hot or cold side for the ic

i know i need the piping for the ic which is gonna suck because i have a atx
i need a boost a/f wide band and exhust temp? i kno the boost and a/f wideband are important what are some other fairly important guages?
how am i looking?



u see the ic and turbomani set up, to the right is a long ic pipe (hot or cold?) my o2 houseing, and my fuel return

doesn't look like it's part of the IC piping at all, but a CAI for the turbo inlet.

heyitsstock wrote:i kno the boost and a/f wideband are important what are some other fairly important guages?

Fuel pressure, and oil pressure are good gauges to have. An EGT gauge can be handy, but it's not a necessity.

heyitsstock wrote:u see the ic and turbomani set up, to the right is a long ic pipe (hot or cold?)

That's the hotside pipe. (most of it anyway) It probably won't fit up very well just the way it is. I know people have modified the stock piping to work. (not sure if it's been done on an ATX car before though) Either way you're going to have to fab up some custom pipes.

I didn't notice anything to control the fuel pressure such as a RRFPR FMU or a standalone. Do you have that covered?

Looks like you need an adaptor plate, some way to modify the srt-4 oil lines, a oil return line, an intake, alot of vacuum lines (vacuum block), map clamp or aobe, and some kind of fuel management. Also the hotside pipe fits like crap, so you are going to need alot of piping.

yea the adapter i have to get again....

modify the srt oil lines?

fuel management i was thinking the chill factory rrfpr

map clamp or aobe?



remember im new at this i have read a decent amount but until its in my hands i dont understand.....

this is a project of collecting parts while im at school...... im not starting the engine rip apart until i fully understand the mechanics of this set up

don't use a map clamp, use a safc if you absolutely must go cheap on fuel control.

The stock oil feed is not in the same location on a 2.0 as it is on a 2.4. So the oil lines you have will need to be modified. Obviously your oil pan does not have a oil return fitting in it, so either you need to get one welded in or use a bulkhead fitting with stat-o-seals. A map clamp hides boost from your map sensor so your computer doesn't freak out.

gotcha... i fiqured most of those lines i couldnt use.....i knew about the oil pan.....


the map clamp i understand but little confused on how to go about it.... search time

Missing links work well, synapseengineering.com

alright... dman i havent felt this noobish in a while.... ok guys bear with with me


lambo i checked out that boost bypass... cool so i got the boost heading away from the mapsensor...


i read the modifying the oil and coolant line..... seems alright

i think now i have to work on fuel return.... which im really lost on...

i have to get the intercooler piping.. could i swing a universal kit.. or should i have an exhust shop fix me up with some???...


i need a bov




edit yea i just read the srt how too sticky...... i am so confused basically becasue i have never done this before and i have nothing to look at....

am i in over my head?

heyitsstock wrote:alright... dman i havent felt this noobish in a while.... ok guys bear with with me


lambo i checked out that boost bypass... cool so i got the boost heading away from the mapsensor...


i read the modifying the oil and coolant line..... seems alright

i think now i have to work on fuel return.... which im really lost on...

i have to get the intercooler piping.. could i swing a universal kit.. or should i have an exhust shop fix me up with some???...


i need a bov




edit yea i just read the srt how too sticky...... i am so confused basically becasue i have never done this before and i have nothing to look at....

am i in over my head?

Hence why I'm starting N/A with a little juice

heyitsstock wrote:
am i in over my head?

If you plan on doing this soon, yes, way over your head. You just need a while to research and make sure you have no questions. Even if you don't have questions, you will run into a bunch of snags when you install, so lots more research. All the info is out there.

mmm no i dont plan on doing it soon.... im a school .... anyother good info sources?

Check on neons.org on how some peeps modified the stock srt oil lines to work on there setup and fuel setup.... i see alot of searching and researching for you buddy.... i know it took me awhile on searching before I started hunting parts down for my setup...

^^ ur carwash picture is my macs background aahha


but yea i have an idea of whats going on but again im so in the dark... i have to get over to neons.org

to see what info is over there

heyitsstock wrote:^^ ur carwash picture is my macs background aahha

Im surprised Dave or Josh havent chimed and offered some insight A lil research will take you a long way, hell after a good year or two of researching I feel that Im pretty confident on how to install it myself, and yet Im still learning. Going over to the .org has helped a decent amount too.
EDIT:

Kevin_GP wrote:The stock oil feed is not in the same location on a 2.0 as it is on a 2.4. So the oil lines you have will need to be modified.

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Cbussilver01es wrote:Im surprised Dave or Josh havent chimed and offered some insight A lil research will take you a long way, hell after a good year or two of researching I feel that Im pretty confident on how to install it myself, and yet Im still learning. Going over to the .org has helped a decent amount too.
EDIT:

Kevin_GP wrote:The stock oil feed is not in the same location on a 2.0 as it is on a 2.4. So the oil lines you have will need to be modified.

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The adapter plate pushes the turbo back about an inch, and the oil feed will be off. Also, I should add that if you are piecing together a turbo, it would be a good idea to run a oil psi gauge, so you would need to run a T anyway. I know the oil feed holes are in about the same location, but I could not get the stock line to fit without modifying it.

Kevin speaks the truth!

Cbussilver01es wrote:Kevin speaks the truth!

haha, I just learned the hard way and want to make it easier for everyone else.

lol I feel you man, in your case, thats definitely taking one for the team!

alright so for a rrfpr how much is a used one run? .... i have seen between 100 and 200? is that about right?


i fiqure ill work on understanding and getting fuel set up first... since that a big part of an effective turbo set up

ok so u have ur spool boy modified canaster with the upgraded pump ....the out goes to the filter then to the fuel rail then to the rrfpr (which drops the fuels psi back to around zero) then it come back into the in on the canaster?


am i on the right track

heyitsstock wrote:the out goes to the filter then to the fuel rail then to the rrfpr (which drops the fuels psi back to around zero) then it come back into the in on the canaster?


am i on the right track

Taken straight from 1gn.


Hope it helps!

ahaha that one is way more civilized than the one i found lol

Cbussilver01es wrote:

heyitsstock wrote:the out goes to the filter then to the fuel rail then to the rrfpr (which drops the fuels psi back to around zero) then it come back into the in on the canaster?


am i on the right track

Taken straight from 1gn.


Hope it helps!

Here's another picture of RRFPR setup.



Here's a sweet setup in an actual car






And here's a couple more random pictures just for fun. Cause picturz r fun!

sweeeeeeeet

This chart is very important if you have a vortech SFMU, or having a way of knowing your rate of gain.

quicksilvr wrote:

I've seen matts car multiple times in person Thing is I didnt know that he was running his setup that way because of his Megasquirt. but then again with a big turbo like he has in that r/t you prolly would,

so i was think about getting my oil pressure boost and wide band gauges...


i know its the least of my setup but i fiqured its something that can keep my interest high...


i dont know why there would be a problem with it but can these be installed any time.... like i dont have to have a turbo to run the gauges correct,

the boost gauge is also a vac gauge
oilpressure can be installed iknow
and same with the wideband?





also


im trying to read into this APEXI SAFC.....

so with the spoolboy mod , do you need the safc or not.... im gathering you dont?......because u can just tune the setup using the wideband gauge

but would the safc be easier ?


hmmmmm