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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:36 pm
by Graphite SRT
invujerry wrote:There is a controller for the 02-05 atx computer. It's $1k, there is a 20 page long thread on neons.org about it.
yep i plan on using it on my 4 speed srt swap, i am using switches to shift it for now until i can save up for the 750 dollar pcs controller. Ghetto....yes, but it works for now.
in semi-stock form the 41TE in the 02-03 neons can take so alot more power then what everyone thinks.
Check out the thread on neons.org RacerStev ran mid 500's through a stock trans with some Valve body mods and a PG diff.
I plan on running 300 hp through it with the same exact mods and then uping to 400-450 soon.
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:03 pm
by DOSneons
so what exactly does this controller do
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:00 pm
by Graphite SRT
same thing the stock computer does, with some added stuff like manual shift inputs and the ability to change the shift points in auto mode.
I need it because i am running the srt-4 engine/pcm and it has no outputs like the stock 2.0 auto pcm has for transmission control.
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:06 pm
by DOSneons
so would this help me if i decided to stay with the auto or would it just be better to swap to mtx
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:25 pm
by Graphite SRT
its up to you depending on what you are going to do.
if you are keeping your 2.0 i would swap to a mtx as the way the stock computer shifts the trans it would not last long
also if you were to stay auto you would have to have another torque converter and some valve body mods to go along with it
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:33 pm
by DOSneons
right on ill prolly just swap it cuz i cant find anything for this tranny and after doin some research it doesnt seem to be as big of a deal to do as i thought it was
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:38 pm
by Graphite SRT
nah a swap isn't that hard
my car started out as an auto then i swapped to MTX now im back to ATX...lol
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:44 pm
by DOSneons
yeah i like ur ride almost got a graphite one but a old lady in my neighborhood had one so i went with midnight. lol
so now i just gotta find the parts for the swap
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:10 pm
by Ntyvirus1
pssh, graphite ftmfw

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:14 pm
by DOSneons
lol
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:55 pm
by Graphite SRT
yea, graphite is ftmfw but i do not ever see any midnight blues around so nice choice.
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:12 am
by DOSneons
thats y i got it, and after havin it since 05 ive only seen one around me so im happy with it
quick Q do u guys know if a 01 rt tranny will go in my car or does it have to be from a 03+
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:32 am
by esteinmaier
I have a 96 transmission in my 04. I just had to swap the bell housing over.
If you run the cable actuation, you need a cable bell housing, or if you run the hydraulic actuation, you need the hydraulic bell housing. The transmission side is interchangable. Just figure out what pedals, etc. you have, and get the matching transmission. That will save you the headaches of having to crack open the transmission and re-seal it all.
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:30 pm
by DOSneons
good deal ill check into it
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:36 am
by esteinmaier
GunmetalNeon wrote:Another thing is with the 2.0 motor is that it revs out higher then the 2.4. My redline is at 8200 rpms right now, but it can keep going. I know that esteinmaier's new redline is 9500-10000 rpms.
I'm actually not going to spin it that fast. I won't need to. I'm thinking 8600 is where I'm going to shift it, with a redline at 8800.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:05 pm
by Adionik
What turbo did you trap 117 on?
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:20 pm
by esteinmaier
The 16g. That was at only 22-23 psi from 2nd gear up. I was blowing by a full bolt-on evo at the 1/8 mile, still spinning the tires lol.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:23 pm
by n20sxt
esteinmaier wrote:The 16g. That was at only 22-23 psi from 2nd gear up. I was blowing by a full bolt-on evo at the 1/8 mile, still spinning the tires lol.
was that on stock bottom end? if so omfg....
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:24 pm
by esteinmaier
No, that was a forged 9.2:1 compression bottom end, but the head was untouched with the exception of a 2nd revision magnum cam. Just good management and good fuel. Same thing I'm doing on the new build, but the new build has a TON more potential.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:34 pm
by DOSneons
how much money have u dumped into that beast
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:43 pm
by esteinmaier
I don't know, and I don't want to know. I would probably cry.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:45 pm
by Adionik
Gotta pay to play...
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:47 pm
by DOSneons
ha its all worth it in the end
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:52 pm
by Adionik
Life is too short to be slow
Whether it be on 2 wheels or 4
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:17 pm
by n20sxt
Adionik wrote:Gotta pay to play...
sums it up perfect
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:39 pm
by silverneontuner
doesnt turboing a NGC not work.?
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:06 pm
by esteinmaier
Depends on what you mean. Turboing an NGC computer = fail. Turboing an NGC motor = FTW.
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:30 pm
by DOSneons