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bov problem PLEASE HELP
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:28 am
by phs17
well i bought a greddy type rs bov and when i accelerate it makes a cha-cha-cha sound? i tried adjusting the nut and screw but it still does it. whats wrong with it
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:47 am
by phs17
bump.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:45 am
by occasional demons
You have a Vegas dancer trapped under your hood?
IDK, give it some time for someone to respond. 80 minutes is a bit too soon to bump... IMHO

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:49 am
by phs17
im leaving for ocean city in 2 hrs . and my car is fucked up

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:49 am
by teamliviD
how much boost are you running...the spring in the BOV may not be strong enough....or you are getting PTB and you will have to learn to drive your car differently.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:51 am
by phs17
17 lbs i heard the rs are junk
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:53 am
by teamliviD
that too...do ur self a favor and buy a TiAl BOV...best you can get...ever..
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:02 am
by phs17
i was thinking the turbo xs rfl
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:47 am
by esteinmaier
Get a stronger vacuum signal to it. Should fix ya up.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:50 am
by LionheartedSXT
Tial or synchronic is probably your best bet, then again hks is great too. Did you check the vac line going to it? Is it teed off with something else?
Edit: ^^^ beat me to it

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:47 am
by phs17
yes its tee'd off
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:17 pm
by n20sxt
phs17 wrote:17 lbs i heard the rs are junk
Im running a greddy RS and have had no problems with it.. +1 to what eric said
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:27 pm
by phs17
so i should buy another line . the one i have looks fine. i dont kno why it would make the cha-cha sound
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:39 pm
by LionheartedSXT
Or maybe just invest in a vacuum block, to make everything neater and easier. What better person to go through than yours truly Erick(esteinmaier). Talk to him if your interested in a vacuum block.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:52 pm
by DoubtedNeon
I bought one, best money i ever spent on my car.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:20 pm
by phs17
esteinmaier wrote:Get a stronger vacuum signal to it. Should fix ya up.
how would i go about doing that
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:59 pm
by esteinmaier
A bigger line directly to the manifold, or use a vacuum manifold, such as the one I sell.
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:58 am
by project 03 R/T
I use a vaccum block and my Greddy RS works fine. I initially had the same problem you had. I would go out and get compressor surge under shift changes. What I did was to loosen mine almost completely, then tighten it a few turns. Then go out and try shifting again under boost. I'm running 10lbs right now and she opens with zero surge everytime. I found that the "start near the loosest setting and work your way back" method worked easily and permanently. Im set pretty loose. I see 17inches of vaccum at idle if that helps.
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:49 pm
by OB
Sounds like compressor surge.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:18 pm
by phs17
well i installed the turbo xs rfl bov. and its still making the cha-cha sound. i dont have any boost leaks i checked

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:32 pm
by project 03 R/T
your plunger is set too high. You aren't making enough boost to open it and the air is being forced back to your compressor housing causing the surge. There was nothing wrong with your Greddy RS. You just need to experiment with the setting (softer obviously) until it blows off and doesn't surge.
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:38 pm
by phs17
project 03 R/T wrote:your plunger is set too high. You aren't making enough boost to open it and the air is being forced back to your compressor housing causing the surge. There was nothing wrong with your Greddy RS. You just need to experiment with the setting (softer obviously) until it blows off and doesn't surge.
plunger? its not the bov. its new and it works perfect at the setting its at now
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:53 pm
by project 03 R/T
phs17 wrote:well i installed the turbo xs rfl bov. and its still making the cha-cha sound. i dont have any boost leaks i checked

Spring pressure, sorry for the confusion. After reading this post it seemed as if you were still having the compressor surge. So your BOV is operating correctly now? Typically you will get the surge if the spring is set too stiff in the BOV and the charged air can't escape. It may be partially opening and not be completely opened. I would adjust it a tad more loose and make some quick runs. If the BOV was working correctly, I don't see how you could get the surge. It should be preventing that.
If that doesn't work then I would take Erik's advice and get a stronger vacuum source from the intake. I would say lose the "T" fitting and get a block.
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:25 am
by SRT_coupe
sounds like part throttle boost .when you are accelerating are you full throttle or like 60-80%? also what wastegate do you have?
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:20 pm
by phs17
agp wg
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:23 pm
by SRT_coupe
try putting the stock wg on . if it goes away then its ptb if not then its the bov
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:41 am
by phs17
the wg could be causing this problem?
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:29 pm
by SRT_coupe
yes the aftermarket wg are so stiff it make the small stock turbo spool faster than the engine can take in the boost. causing to much pressure which makes the turbo surge since the bov wont open until you let off the throttle
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:37 pm
by esteinmaier
No, it's surging because with the stock ECU, at part throttle, it opens the wastegate accordingly. With an aftermarket wastegate, it doesn't open until desired pressure is reached in the manifold. If you're choking it off with the throttle blade, you're getting very high pressure in the pipes but not the manifold. The turbo continues to spin as hard as it can with the exhaust volume it is given, and there is nowhere for the air to go but back out the way it came, causing surge.
When you go off of stock ECU boost control, you need to drive the car differently. Spend very little time in part throttle boost. If you don't need the power of full boost, shift.
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:55 pm
by phs17
im stage 1