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Post by srtjesse » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:49 am

has anyone here ran any ebay turbos? Xspower aka ss auto chrome? Ive ben looking into them and the reason that they go bad is too much oil pressure if you run a oil restrictor and a good oil return they will last and perform just as good as a name brand turbo. There is allot of people who have ran these for years on high bost with no problems at all. Im going to get one i just want to know if anyone in the neon crowd has used hem thanks.
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Post by esteinmaier » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:49 am

I don't recommend it. There are places that fail all over those things. Not just the bearings.
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:15 am

esteinmaier wrote:I don't recommend it. There are places that fail all over those things. Not just the bearings.
this^
i mean go for it when it comes apart and mabe takes the motor down youll kick your face for not buying a better setup
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Post by n20sxt » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:54 pm

Fuzzyneon wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:I don't recommend it. There are places that fail all over those things. Not just the bearings.
this^
i mean go for it when it comes apart and mabe takes the motor down youll kick your face for not buying a better setup
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Post by sidepipe87 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:55 pm

I'm confused about these kits... It seems like it comes with a turbo flange, but not manifold. what are you supposed to use?? also, what do these kits do for fuel management/tuning?? rrfpr?
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Post by srtjesse » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:43 am

i know that those ebay turbos have a bad rep but allot of the honda tech guys have ben driving the hell out of these turbos from 15-25 psi pushing well over 300 whp daily driving the hell out of them for years they said that these turbos are meant to only take 15 psi of oil pressure thats why a oil restrictor is needed and a good oil return line. and in case if it does go bad blasstperformance.com can rebuild them with genuine garret parts for only 260 so i see this as a good and cheap way to have a good turbo


this is the link where they say how long they have used them and how hard yes i read all 19 pages and everyone had the same answer that the turbos are great with no problems at all i guess ss auto chrome aka xs power upped their quality
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1730931


and this is the link to the reman company
http://www.blaastperformance.com/index.php
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Post by sidepipe87 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:39 pm

I did a quick search the other night and it seems you have to dig deep for good results. Most people said they had serious issues with them. Including the guys on the Supra forums.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:58 pm

Can't you get an SRT-4 turbo for 200 or less? Why would you spend 260 for a rebuild on a cheap turbo when you could spend less and get a good one?
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Post by n20sxt » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:32 pm

"Mine is still going after 1.5 years, 6psi daily driven. If Jeff Evans from Evans-tunign supports the stuff why doesnt everyone?"
Jeff Evans knows his shit, im gonna look into these turbos more after that statement..
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Post by srtjesse » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:01 pm

people ruin them because they dont use the proper oil pressure or turn the car on and boost the hell out of them right away or dont allow the turbos to properly cool down before a shut down if you treat these turbos good they will treat you and your car good and you can allways have it rebuilt with garret parts to garrets specs trough blaast and itll be just like having a garret turbo this is the link to their youtube acct they have some cars making over 500 hp on their turbo kits that run just fine m.youtube.com/profile?gl=US&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en&user=XSPowerltd
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Post by TheRandom1 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:03 pm

Yup... they run just fine...once. Erick knows a helluva lot more than most of us do about turbos, and if he says it's a POS, well, he hasn't lied to me about anything else in the past, and I don't see him doing so now.

But go ahead and buy your cheap POS turbo, if/when it does fall apart and you post saying you wasted your money on it, we'll all get a good laugh out of it.
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Post by srtjesse » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:59 pm

i am in no way saying erick doesnt know. the man is a god when it comes to bost and nens but i all of the sudden find all this really good feed back on them so i figured maybe ssac upped their quality or something im going to give it a try if it works cool if not it was only 200 bucks lol
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Post by TheRandom1 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:10 pm

But for "only 200 bucks" you could get a turbo that WON'T fall apart and murder your entire engine... seems like a stupid risk when most of their feedback is negative.
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Post by esteinmaier » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:15 pm

It's not like they all fail. But their tolerances, balancing, casting, and metallurgy are all inferior to the name brands. Not to mention they are all using older wheel and cover technology.

If you threw tires on your wheels without balacing them first, you may get lucky and the car drives perfect. But it's also likely that you may get a little wobble. Now pretend you drive 500mph on a daily basis, and that's the punishment the bearings will take if off balance.

In short, you may have great luck with them lasting a long time, but even if they do so, they still won't perform as a newer tech turbo.
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Post by doyle09 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:05 pm

i have no experience with the turbos, but i have had experience with an ss autochrome exhaust, it was everything they said it was. there's my piece of worthless knowledge
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:20 pm

IDE say u get what u pay for. It's true in most things car. Seems like a poor investment IMO
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Post by dutch animal » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:48 pm

and hhow bad wouldt these turbo's be if you only boost to 8 / 10 psi ... and don't go higer than that ???

just wondering :D
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Post by esteinmaier » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:50 pm

How bad is it to run a motor with a spun rod bearing at 2000RPM instead of 4000RPM? Still gonna blow up if it's going to, but it will just take longer to do it.
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Post by DoubtedNeon » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:27 am

Please dont use these turbos, giving them sales on $#!7 merch. is just allowing them to make more bad product! Get one from Erick, or MPX. I wouldnt pay less than 600 for a turbo if I was building a brand new setup
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:31 am

honostly if your set on it go for it but read what where saying with open eyes. like erik said might work might not id rather put my money on something proven to work
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Post by dutch animal » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:09 am

no no no no ... i m not goona buy one of those ... not gonna buy a T @ all LOL

but was just wondering what dif it would make, boost VS blown engine.

don't know sh*t about T's .. :(
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Post by n20sxt » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:21 am

what size turbo are you looking at? i say go for it lol.... if it blows apart tho you shit outa luck
TheRandom1 wrote:Yup... they run just fine...

But go ahead and buy your cheap POS turbo, if/when it does fall apart and you post saying you wasted your money on it, we'll all get a good laugh out of it.
First off, that's obviously a false statement if ppl on honda tech say they've ran them for over a year with no problems. Not backing em up, just saying the experience varies.
2nd there's no need to be a dick about it, specially if you have no experience with these turbos or boosting a neon in general :roll:
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:16 pm

http://torque-plus.com/

Problem solved. :lol:

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Post by esteinmaier » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:36 pm

Wow, didn't even know that existed. F it, I'm selling ebay turbos from now on. Shrapnel-proof gasket included.
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:06 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Wow, didn't even know that existed. F it, I'm selling ebay turbos from now on. Shrapnel-proof gasket included.
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Post by srtjesse » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:38 pm

well i was really set on one of them but im glad you guys opened my eyes im just going save up and get a good turbo
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:04 pm

srtjesse wrote:well i was really set on one of them but im glad you guys opened my eyes im just going save up and get a good turbo
Im glad and convinced youll be MUCH happier
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Post by srtjesse » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:46 am

i really really want a s256 et so im just going to start to put money aside and get it then ill just start building my kit i dont want nothing too crazy just about 300 to 350 hp to the wheels but for now i gues ill just stick to afx ecu bigger injctors and e85
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Post by Leighvi424 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:31 pm

I had an ebay 16g on my talon runnin 25 daily and it took a shit at 3000 miles I rebuilt it with mitsu parts and I had no problems with it and they kid that got it off me has had it for 16k and no problems... I'm not sayin that I conpletly trust them but if u dnt try and run retarded boost and take care of them u will be fine
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Post by srtjesse » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:56 pm

i decided against them i dont want to take the chance of getting a bad one im just going to save up and get a good turbo
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