mag intake manifold install question
mag intake manifold install question
I have a question I just my mag intake manifold and the butterflies are stuck open can that cause any damage if I install it like that? And is it true I have to use the r/t starter I have an 02 se and it came off an 03 rt besides the wiring what will I have to change to install this manifold....yes I know its a noob question but you never know if you dont ask
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No!
No!
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Gasket, no. The plastic intake uses molded rubber gaskets for each runner. The Magnum aluminum intake uses a single paper gasket.
The bolts for the plastic intake and are little longer than the ones that are used on the Magnum intake. They will work in some of the holes in the head or just hack them off 1/4" or a little less. Or a thick washer. Or something like that.
The bolts for the plastic intake and are little longer than the ones that are used on the Magnum intake. They will work in some of the holes in the head or just hack them off 1/4" or a little less. Or a thick washer. Or something like that.
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6mm diameter bolt from anywhere you want to get one.
The big washer on the ones from the plastic intake just helps spread the load out to the manifold and away from the brass inserts molded into the intake. With the aluminum intake you don't have to have that big washer.
The big washer on the ones from the plastic intake just helps spread the load out to the manifold and away from the brass inserts molded into the intake. With the aluminum intake you don't have to have that big washer.
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There are not enough of the plastic IM bolts. (5)
Since you need to buy 3 more?, 6mm x 1.00 x 25mm long IIRC, you may as well just get them all, so they match. They are not that expensive. Any hardware should have them.
Also an install tip: Since the two studs are priced way too high, get two screws that are 50mm long, and cut the heads off, then cut a slot with the hacksaw in the end you just cut off.
Thread them into the head, them slide the gasket, and IM over the pins and install the screws. Then back out those two pins, and finish installing the screws.
Since you need to buy 3 more?, 6mm x 1.00 x 25mm long IIRC, you may as well just get them all, so they match. They are not that expensive. Any hardware should have them.
Also an install tip: Since the two studs are priced way too high, get two screws that are 50mm long, and cut the heads off, then cut a slot with the hacksaw in the end you just cut off.
Thread them into the head, them slide the gasket, and IM over the pins and install the screws. Then back out those two pins, and finish installing the screws.
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You'd be better off with a simple RPM switch from Summit or Jeg's or something. Fumbling with a switch isn't really the right answer. We always used an RPM switch when we first started putting these in 1st Gens 8-10 years ago. Those switches are only around $50 and the RPM level is easily adjusted with DIP switches in them.
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It would work, but not the best idea.kishon55 wrote:Ok so what about the toggle switch idea?
You don't want to leave the MTV motor energized for an extended amount of time, as it might heat up.
Note that there are no more MTV motors available new. So you might want to consider that, in the care and feeding of your parts.
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If anything, I would be using anti seize on either side of the head. I haven't had an exhaust manifold come loose yet. Plus being aluminum, a bit of lube can't hurt. You want to keep those threads happy.
Now if you were using studs, then yes, blue loc-tite for the IM and high temp maybe for the exhaust. I would stick with the flange bolts for the exhaust side, flange nuts for studs, and 6mm washers on the IM. Note: Flange nuts and screws are pricey.
Using washers on the exhaust might lead to the screws backing out. The flange head gives them some friction against the manifold to keep them secure.
Now if you were using studs, then yes, blue loc-tite for the IM and high temp maybe for the exhaust. I would stick with the flange bolts for the exhaust side, flange nuts for studs, and 6mm washers on the IM. Note: Flange nuts and screws are pricey.
Using washers on the exhaust might lead to the screws backing out. The flange head gives them some friction against the manifold to keep them secure.
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For the stock manifold:NGCnoproblem wrote:Do you know the exact screw I need for the exhaust and how many?
BOLT, Hex Flange Head, M8x1.25x30
8 required
Just for reference:
Mopar PN# 6503131
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I think EJ (Hudson Neon) used the stock ones when he installed his, at 2011 Carlisle. From what I remember the thickness was about the same, but that being one of the first (prototype?)castings there were some clearance issues with the bolt head. Hopefully that has been taken care of by now.
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1gn bolts work just fine, as does a $4 95 metal intake manifold gasket instead of the $12 magnum set.
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Re: mag intake manifold install question
Before wasting ur money on a rpm switch to open secondaries that are stuck open, fix the butterflies so they work properly, so the switch can do its job.. Jmokishon55 wrote:I have a question I just my mag intake manifold and the butterflies are stuck open
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Truth.
They should be closed by default.
So either the MTV motor is seized, or the spring has been removed inside, and the valves propped open. AFAIK, the spring that connects the motor to the shaft is not sold separately.
Without knowing why they are open, spend $ on a switch is pointless.
They should be closed by default.
So either the MTV motor is seized, or the spring has been removed inside, and the valves propped open. AFAIK, the spring that connects the motor to the shaft is not sold separately.
Without knowing why they are open, spend $ on a switch is pointless.
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2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCMOlha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.
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I fixed the butterflies I got a motor from the junkyard tested it and it works fine the butterflies open and close freely now but I heard not to leave the motor powered on all the time with a toggle switch but if I run two switches one for power and one to open them when I want till I get my rpm switch will that work
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You would be better off using a limit switch so the accelerator pedal hits it when on the floor.
You don't need tow separate switches, just a switch, and a relay.
You don't need tow separate switches, just a switch, and a relay.
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This will fit in the PDC if you use pre wired female slide terminals, or you can just use the slide terminals directly on the relay.
They will slide up from the bottom and lock in place. Disassembly of the PDC required.
Or a pre wired socket.
AutoZone would have the relay, not sure about a socket. Just look in the fog light section.
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Wire 30 and 85 to fused 12v (+) Wire 87 to the MTV motor. Wire 86 to the switch. Other side of switch/MTV motor to ground.
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The red part? Not a big deal. Even if the latch, they generally stay seated without it.
Most of mine you need a pick to even get them to release. The lever has broken.
Most of mine you need a pick to even get them to release. The lever has broken.
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1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
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2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCMOlha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
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