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Can words be evil?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:23 pm
by titansxt
Words can be evil? I understand you may be religious but that statment is unprovable. Words are inherently tools of communication and cannot have a soul or use free will. The words may be offensive but have you seen the other stuff on here? Search jihad for examples of evil or jenna for examples of porn for instance. Although I respect your opinion and your right to express it, I fail to see how a word can be evil.

For instance, I can say excrement, poop, doodoo, feces, crap, turd, etc but I cannot say shit? God has a thesaurus and deemed and english word evil long before it was used? I can use the verb defecate with immunity but saying I shit makes me a sinner? You are going to scare off even the most conservative folks with that logic.

Let's talk now about fornication, procreation, and "go forth and multiply". I can say "go forth and multiply" in another way and it's wrong?

As for the "God Damn", which I believe is the crux of your argument to pun a phrase, I believe the sin you refer to is using god's name in vain. Again, there are much bigger fishes to fry, search jihad and see his (or his translational equivalent) name used in vain for murderous reasons. That is a problem, using the common vernacular may be offensive to you but does not warrant modification or censorship of reviews. Someone may have poor taste of words and come off as offensive, but that does not make it or them evil. Plenty of death row inmates have found jesus and are forgiven in your eyes, but I think they should burn in hell regardless, am I evil? Yes I am, am I evil? I am man.
I read this off of another site and thought it was a real good reply. :withstupid:

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:29 pm
by Bella Lugrossi
kudos on that.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:46 pm
by jrumann59
In our society curse words are considered indecent not evil and remember who wrote the bible, it wasn't God it was man. The vulgarity, tone, and coarseness is what will make a term seem offensive but no term or group of terms can be considered evil even such literary gems as Mein Kompf, Torah, Holy Bible, and the Koran.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:19 pm
by hansken_yo
I hate censorship, and this argument is the very basis of how I feel about things. What one finds offensive might be damn funny to another, etc. I do believe certain situations require a certain etiquette, but not all. Anyway, if anyone else has an interest in linguistics I'd suggest reading up on Derrida. You'd soon find out that nothing is as it seems and that we make things what they are.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:32 pm
by MoxHair
"Evil" doesn't exist.. so Words cannot be evil.

wait, i'm not getting into a religious conversation, so ignore what i said.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:15 pm
by jrumann59
MoxHairR/T wrote:"Evil" doesn't exist.. so Words cannot be evil.

wait, i'm not getting into a religious conversation, so ignore what i said.
How utopian of you. I guess John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Damer, Hitler were just misunderstood. Man is inherently evil, look at what happened in the Superdome after Katrina between the rapes, child molestations, and murders, forgetting that man is inherently evil will get you killed this is the main reason that I am no longer a democrat.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:17 pm
by MoxHair
"Evil" was in reference to Religion Evil. The People you listed weren't "Evil" they were just incredibly stupid and terrible human beings.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:00 pm
by jrumann59
MoxHairR/T wrote:"Evil" was in reference to Religion Evil. The People you listed weren't "Evil" they were just incredibly stupid and terrible human beings.
I am glad you go to bed every night with warm and fuzzies, do you leave the door unlocked?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:39 pm
by 03blackrt
Some people need to be introduced to a dictionary. :thumbup:

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evil

Evil...
1 a: morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked <an evil impulse> b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a person of evil reputation>
2 aarchaic : inferior b: causing discomfort or repulsion : offensive <an evil odor> c: disagreeable <woke late and in an evil temper>
3 a: causing harm : pernicious <the evil institution of slavery> b: marked by misfortune : unlucky

Cute little bunnies are evil, cause they make me uncomfortable :D

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:05 am
by kc2005ptgt
yawn, I feel like I am back in Philosophy class again... this will forever be argued till the end of man... personally, I think some words are offensive and so I do not use them, nor do I like them being used on me (or at me I guess). But in the end, words are just utterances, made by air passing by our vocal chords... being Christian I could care less to use some words because I believe from the abundance of the HEART the mouth SPEAKS... so if my mouth is flowing out a bunch of trash and garbage (as I see it), then so is my heart filled with such. There is no "rules" about using such words, although the Apostle Paul talked about staying away from such talk, and I believe it is because these kinds of words do nothing but harm to people.

I think the best example is a song I heard by a band called third day which talks about an old proverb which says "if you can't something good, don't say anything at all." -- in it he quotes James, in which he says the power of the tongue is great (all paraphrased, not word for word) - for it is such a small instrument, but with it can make a big difference, such as a rudder on a ship... the power of the tongue is great in that it can either destroy or bring life.

As for censorship, I believe in the 1st amendment, and I do not think we should have any sort of censorship, but then we have the problem of people! Some folks just have no self control and do not know how to shut up when they should, or remain silent when they should, and they use words which cause great harm (such as the "N" word, the "B" word and others of that nature), so we end up with things like the guy from the radio who got fired for saying "nappy-headed hoes" who I think never should have said it, but should not have been fired. I also do not think it is possible to police words. As long as there are people, there will always be idiots, and morons, saying idiotic and moronic things :D