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mac on pcs

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:51 pm
by heyitsstock
ok short version.... i have been talking to my dad... and he doesnt understand why you cant run a mac OS on a self built computer....

i believe you cant because you can not buy the entire mac os platform like you can with windows (i think)...

so the question is

a. does mac sell there os as a full verson for use on any computer?


is there a way to put mac on a pc

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:07 pm
by racer12306
you can buy a mac that will run both OS's. it ain't cheap but from what i have heard it is pretty good.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:15 pm
by J-Villa
i want a mac mini :(

but probably buying one within a week or two :)

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:23 pm
by Adionik
I would build a quad-core monster, then use an emulator to run OS x...

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:27 pm
by heyitsstock
i kno you can run mac on windows.....

but there is not a way to put mac on to a brand new hardrive correct

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:29 pm
by racer12306
mac on windows?

The computer I'm talking about has the ability to run both OS's at the exact same time.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:23 pm
by Arro
Mac OS FTL :( takes more actions to move through interface, interface is not intuitive (never has been since day one, long before Windows version anything), and ONE BUTTON centric designs.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:13 pm
by gninja21
You can run a Mac OS X on an Intel Processor based computer. You have to follow certain instructions listed at a site called (just google it). The Mac OS X will not run properly on your self built computer due to a few reasons. One being that the drivers for the Logic Boards (aka Motherboards) for items like the chipset, graphics, USB controllers, RAID controllers and firewire. The devices all need drivers to communicate with the operating system and each other. For Windows and Linux you have to install drivers. The Mac OS X only has a specific set of drivers installed. Since all of there laptops are identical mobo wise the don't need many drivers. Same goes for the desktop. It is WAAAAYYY more work to get the Mac OS to work on a standard computer. Its based on UNIX but that doesn't mean its open source.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:12 pm
by ZeroChad
err Virtual machine?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:39 am
by TeckNeon
Apple does not sell an OS that can be run on a PC but it is possible to run OSX on a PC. There is a great website, I can't recall it right now, that has the ridiculous list of stuff you gotta do to build a PC to run OSX and windows.

I have an Intel iMac that I can run Windows on but I have ZERO reason to do so other than to get a Zune for dirt cheap, boot into Windows to add and delete stuff from it and that is not enough reason for me to go through the paces just to install Windows anything on my Mac.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:15 am
by jT

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:20 am
by Diablo0
You can get it to run on a regular PC but it does violate Apples EULA

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:47 am
by Arro
Heh like any of us care about License agreements....

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:45 am
by Mr Josh Zombie
you have to build a hackintosh. There's no -easy- way to build your own apple computer, but it's possible... just takes a lot of time.

(I'm an ower of a Mac mini and a MacPro at work. I've gone though 3 various size iBooks, had a Powerbook, and also a Macbook. Needless to say, I'm a bit of a mac expert haha.)

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:08 pm
by jphillips
if bootcamp had nice support of all the hardware, *and* there was an appropriately powerful vid card equivalent for a mac I'd still be running my G4.

More crap I need to do on the wintel platform... Apple makes some fantastically sexy hardware though. Way overengineered compared to everything else, but man is their packaging nice (and i don't mean the boxes they come in - although those are amazingly well done as well).

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:16 pm
by heyitsstock
what i thought thnk you

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:26 pm
by ZeroChad
Hackintosh How-to
I love lifehacker.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:46 pm
by J-Villa
J-Villa wrote:i want a mac mini :)
I bought n itouch. I am on it now.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:31 pm
by TeckNeon
They had some awesome deals on refurb Core Duo Mac Mini's but they are sold out. $469 or something like that. Not bad at all.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:00 pm
by J-Villa
yes I would of bought them 4 that. But I love my new itouch.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:54 am
by TeckNeon
I was looking into a Touch myself but if I can find a JailBreak'd iPhone that is unlocked for around $400 or so I will pick it up instead. I could use a bigger iPod that plays video so I might as well just get an iPhone for a few bucks more. But I am with T-Mo so I gotta get it unlocked. We shall see though. Tax refund season is not far off so...once the debt is paid off we shall see what things happen for me! All else fails, I will get a refurbed Touch when they come available.

Apple refurbed stuff comes with the same warranty as a new product, looks new, operates like new...just costs at least 25%+ less. We gave a 2GB iPod Nano for christmas and it can't be told from new. Love it. $83 shipped. Beat that!

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:23 am
by Arro
80 something bux... You're talking the previous Nano, not the new one that plays video, right? Wow, my Sansa Express is 2GB, w/ 2GB microSD slot... radio, voice rec, etc, and sounds great.. and I only paid $60 shipped incl. a nice case. And it's smaller than my roommate's Nano. It's easy to use and it can plug directly in with no cable. Easy to read screen. I like it. I'm glad I barely passed on buying the iPod.

I guess even with the 25% "refurbished" discount their prices are FTL :( Too bad, their design is nice.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:07 pm
by TeckNeon
Yeah, 2nd Gen Nano is what we gave. I am not a fan of "drag and drop" Sansa/iRiver/Mizou/etc players. I like Apple stuff for what it does, the easy of use, the durability and the fact that I have a Mac at work and at home and most of the other MP3 players DO NOT support Mac computers. Mac people have iPods and that's about it. Unless you wanna get a copy of Windows and have an Intel Mac and dual boot into Windows to run a completely different program to jukebox music. I would have gotten one of the first gen Zunes for $80 but that is what I would have to do to use it on my Mac.

This is what made my want my Nano. Beat it to death takes alot and it just keeps on going. Flash based is great if you don't need a ton of space.

Besides, how good is your FM radio? How good is your voice recorder? How often do you use them? None of that is useful to me at all. I want an MP3 player. Hell, all my cell phones play MP3's and have a jukebox feature and expandable memory but I never use them for such unless I am out of room on my 4GB iPod and jump drives.