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As 400+ of you know I'm parting-out the Neon. Well I posted my bodykit on a local classified and got an e-mail from a Frank Donald address frdonald101@keromail.com asking about. Obviously doesn't fully grasp the English language but living in North Peurto Rico (Florida) as I do I didn't think a whole lot about it.
He wanted to know what condition it's in, if I could do better on the price, if I take cashiers check or money order as payment, yada yada. No obvious red flags yet. I responded no to anything other than cash or PayPal, asked if he was local, explained the condition of kit, and i'd lower the price if he picked-up other wise I'd charge him for shipping and whatnot. I also asked him what Neon he has, and color and model; you know, car guy stuff.
The response was so obviously from a scammer I just had to laugh, but I'm also a bit pissed that this f*cker had the nerve!

Here's his response copied from my e-mail account this morning:
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Thanks so much for the prompt response...I'm okay with the price of the Item.
As for the pick up of the item,you do not need to be worried yourself about the shipment as there is a shipper that will be coming over for pick up of the item from you becos i still have many items the shipper will be picking up for me. All what i need from you is to trust you with the money!
The payment that will be coming to you will be enough to handle the transaction.Money for the item,also $30.00 for taking your time and your effort to wire the rest of the funds via Western Union to the shipper information that will be enclosed with the payment. Response to the question bellow:
1.Can i trust you with the money?
2 Will you be available when the shipper will be coming over for the pick up of the item?
3.Can you wire the rest of the funds to the shipper the same day you recieved and cashed the check?
If so kindly get back to me with your full name and address,also with a valid cell phone number for immediately isssuing of the check. Thanks.
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I was born at night...but not last night!
Anywho, I did a little research and apparently this particular douche is from Nigeria and has been pulling similar scams for years now using the keromail domain. Those less bright than a X-Mas bulb have been taken for hundreds of dollars through a fraudulent check scam, which was my first guess on reading his response. By the time the bank figures out it's a bad check the guy's vanished sticking you with the debt owed to the bank.

Not sure what to do about it, should I alert authorities and set-up a sting to catch this f*cker?
I really don't want to respond back despite the few choice words I have to say to him/her.
Anyway, for now just passing it along, anybody from keromail is a crook waiting to steal your money!

yup scam i cant believe they are still running this same scam aslong as they have.

Have you ever seen the episode of Nightline or whatever where they did setup a sting and caught two guys and even traced it back to Nigera and found the guy that originally sent out the e-mail lol

Definitly contact the local authorities. Give them all of the information that you have. It's gonna be hit or miss whether or not they do anything about it.

Good Catch and Good Luck

Diablo0 wrote:Have you ever seen the episode of Nightline or whatever where they did setup a sting and caught two guys and even traced it back to Nigera and found the guy that originally sent out the e-mail lol

Yes I saw that! It sucks that 99% of the time they get away with it.

I posted stuff on craigslist and I know right off the bat it was spam.

*Delete*

OverDrive418 wrote: living in North Peurto Rico (Florida) as I do I didn't think a whole lot about it.

LOL, never heard that one before. I thought it was already reffered to as North Cuba. I'm actually Puerto Rican.

Diablo0 wrote:Have you ever seen the episode of Nightline or whatever where they did setup a sting and caught two guys and even traced it back to Nigera and found the guy that originally sent out the e-mail lol

I saw that episode. I don't normally watch it and yet i seem to have caught this one online. It really frustrated me more than alot of things i have ever seen on TV in a while. although it wouldn't be right, i probably would have broken his legs if i found him.

yea i seen that episode as well, some people are freaking retarded. had one actually send me a money order, i took it to the bank and the bank was like this was the most fakest shyt they have ever seen, i had one send me an email saying that they were getting a lump some of money and they wanted to keep the money away from there greedy family and they wanted to send me a check for like 1.6 million and i can keep $400k of the money and send the rest, im like even if this wasnt a scam do they really think i was going to be able to pull 1.2 million dollars from my bank from a fake check they must be crazy, hell if it was that easy i would just cash the entire check and leave the country..hahahaha

I had an email similar to this last spring and it got in my school email account. I traced the email back to somewhere in eastern Europe but the name, real or not, sounds like from west africa. No offense to Nigerians but it seems like that country is teeming with scammers.

Sad part is there are still plenty of people taking these emails like serious business.

Chibits12 wrote:No offense to Nigerians but it seems like that country is teeming with scammers.

No, you are right.
http://www.nigerianscams.org/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8171053/

i sell a lot of stuff on creigslist and i have gotten the same email atleast twice a week. On one of them i said Fuck You Nigeria and the guy emailed me back saying he was going to find me. pfsh

I've never sold anything by means of the internet up until recently because I've always heard it's the easiest way to get scammed because you don't deal with a person, you deal with a name and an e-mail address, so you never know who you're actually talking to. I've always been a face-to-face and seal the deal with a handshake kind of guy.
On the first e-mail I gave this person the benefit of the doubt but was careful not to give out any personal info like the phone# and address he requested which I wouldn't do anyway no matter what. But the second e-mail...Red Alert, Defcon 1, Code Red and all that.
No offense to the latins out there but your brothers and sisters here in Florida don't seem to want to do the whole English language thing, nor the Hatians for that matter (espescially the Hatians). Doesn't bother me, my point was that it's not uncommon to run into people who just smile and shake their head "yes" when you talk to them so the poor attempt at English grammer in the e-mail was not an instant red flag to me. (and I always mix up the U and the E in Pueto Rico, thanks for the spellcheck Kevo!)
I'll report it to the Police but not really expecting anything to come of it, unless there's an internet crimes division or something. At least it's in a report somewhere and if they do catch him/her there's a record of his/her activities somewhere.

Now if these Nigerians were smart they'd have Microsoft Word do a spelling and grammer check at the very least before they send this out! IDK I figure if they've been doing it for so long they should've gotten a little more crafty about it.

And to whoever got scammed by them... Shame on you! Unplug your computer and donate it to a school or something and give up on the whole internet thing, you are not ready!

Nigerian Salute:

OK, I think I got it all out of my system now, thanks.

The same thing happened to me about a year ago. I had 2 hutches that I wanted gone so I put em on craigslist. In the add I put that I would not ship and wanted to sell locally due to the size and weight of the items. The first reply was from a guy that wanted to pay with cashiers check and wanted me to use his shipping company. He let me know that he had already sent payment and included a little extra for my troubles in having to deal with his shipping company. He also included the amount for shipping. Well the check showed up at my apartment 2 days later via UPS in the amount of $6k and some change. I only wanted 75 bucks for the hutches in the first place. I e-mailed the guy back and told him I was not willing to deal with him in this manner just like my post said and that I would send him his check back. He tells me to send the check to his brother in another town so he can cash it. The check was in my name so there was no way in hell I was doing that. Well that was the last I heard from the guy and I still have the check if anybody wants to see it I can post up a pic. BTW, the reason he had my name and address is because I put it in the add so that people could come by and see the items for themselves because the pics I posted came out all blurry.

I sold an old cell phone of mine on eBay once and the winner sent me a fake cashiers check. Me working in the banking industry made me question it since it wasn't printed very well and looked rather blury compared to a normal check. I called bank that issued, or I should say, supposedly issued the check and they said they had gotten a bunch of them. Thats when I faxed a copy of the check to them and gave them the persons contact information where they wanted me to ship the phone to. A few days later I got an e-mail from the person asking where the phone was, if it was shipped... so I told them, nope.. not until I got a legit check and didn't hear from them since lol

you havve get my email is good! pleasse response with the banc number for of which i may deposit you're funds

Chibits12 wrote:I had an email similar to this last spring and it got in my school email account. I traced the email back to somewhere in eastern Europe but the name, real or not, sounds like from west africa. No offense to Nigerians but it seems like that country is teeming with scammers.

Sad part is there are still plenty of people taking these emails like serious business.

It is, thats why at work (I work for a major webhosting company) we automatically flag Nigerian accounts for verification. It is so bad we don't even accept credit card, paypal, check or money order from there, they can only send a wire transfer. You would be surprised how many people from Nigeria have tried to sign up with stolen CC numbers as well. Our verification system tracks the IP address that you sign up from and will flag an account if you signed up from a certain number of miles away from the address you put in billing. Also some people will steal peoples CC numbers and sign up for an account using all the identity of the person they stole it from, but use an email address like irl33thax0rz@gmail.com , which will get flagged as well lol. I had some Nigerian tell me on the phone that she had to go all the way into town to get a pre-paid visa credit card just to find out that we dont accept anything but wire transfer from her country. I felt bad but when the fraud rate is over 90% from Nigeria you've gotta do what you gotta do.