i have no clue what topic this would be...

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:27 pm

anyway, i know that people run their own online radio stations and all that shit.... i just recently moved my second computer down in my basement into whats otherwise known as the 'band room' which is essentially a recording studio that ive built where my brother has all of his amps and his many guitars and all of my own drumming shit into along with a computer and all the neccessary stereo and recording equipment needed to run a studio (we often have some guys come over and offer their bass skills, or on rare occasions have a whole band set up and well play through a list of songs that we all know)

anyway, im really off-point here but i wanted to know if its possible that i can stream live music (that i can record through the mics in my 'band-room) to have available through a link that i can put up when my away message is up on AIM???

i know that you can run radio stations online through the music on your computer and whatnot, but i wanted to know if i can stream me playing drums onto the internet and people can hear me playing live??? i have cable so i think streaming it would be no big deal except to those who have to deal with dial-up???

know of any services??? know of any free ones at that????

thanks, ALOT
matt

CU_rob · Post by **CU_rob** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:29 pm

check into shoutcast.com... plugin for winamp. i believe that you can rig it to work for live.

It has been a while since i messed with it (college).
check it out at winamp.com and shoutcast.com

Post by **Diablo0** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:45 pm

Took the words right out of my mouth Rob...

To quote ShoutCast's site...

What is the SHOUTcast Server?

Nullsoft SHOUTcast Server is an application that runs as an application on supported operating system such as Windows 95, 98, NT, FreeBSD, etc. The SHOUTcast Server will accept connections via SHOUTcast DSP Plug-in in order to have a SOURCE Stream to broadcast. Once a stream has begun, the SHOUTcast server will only accept connections from other copies of Winamp in order to broadcast that source stream to each listener. In effect, having a micro-broadcast system to allow people to be able to broadcast any content in any of the formats that Wianmp supports. Through the use of specialized SHOUTcast broadcasting plug-ins, audio from a microphone as well as any device attached to the Line-In port on the broadcasters soundcard can be streamed via SHOUTcast Server. The SHOUTcast server is the key to connecting many poeple to one another via Winamp.

I used to mess with it a few years ago and getting it setup at first is kinda tricky but once you figure out what everything is it's pretty simple.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:50 am

If you need any help with the SHOUTcast, let me know. I used to operate my own server from home - It'd only hold like 10 concurrent listeners because of the Cable Internet connection, but it worked for what I needed it for.

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:17 am

yeah down in my 'studio' i have a 4mic/8 total channel input mixer which i have the line out converted to a 1/8" stereo cable to my line-in in the back of the pc.... normally i record the line-in using tdk mixmaster on my pc or something like that... i have acid pro 4 dor mixing/editting as well so i pretty much built a cheap studio down in my basement.... i gotta try this after i get home from my other job at 8... maybe ill set a time that ill host it for about 5mins and you guys can hear me and tell me if its working all right or what i could do to make it better.... does anyone know what quality it streams at??? i hope id be able to stream 'cd-quality' 128kbps since i have cable but all of the 56k... er actually 53k, would have trouble..... or is it possible to stream in broadband AND 56k-friendly formats???

thanks

Post by **Diablo0** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:01 pm

I don't know about doing a multiple stream like that unless.... you installed winamp twice in two different locations, loaded the SHOUTCast plug into each winamp and configured one for 128 and the other for 16-32-64bit... whichever, then had muliple streams but each winamp would have to set to use different TCP/UDP ports.... that is if you can even do that within the plugin... I haven't messed with it in soo long I've forgotten.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:52 pm

As far as multiple streams go, it how you setup the 'Encoders' and the SHOUTcast server software (which is seperate from Winamp). It's quite easy to do if you use anything other than Winamp that supports SHOUTcast streaming. I DJ with SAM3 Broadcaster and it's awesome. As far as the quality goes, you can set that yourself. I would try 64kbps first with cable, but you probably couldn't hold more than 2 or so listeners since your upload bandwidth is probably more restricted than your download.

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:24 pm

Diablo0 wrote:I don't know about doing a multiple stream like that unless.... you installed winamp twice in two different locations, loaded the SHOUTCast plug into each winamp and configured one for 128 and the other for 16-32-64bit... whichever, then had muliple streams but each winamp would have to set to use different TCP/UDP ports.... that is if you can even do that within the plugin... I haven't messed with it in soo long I've forgotten.

you mean tcp/icp??? howd a udp get thrown in there? haha

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:12 am

You don't have an underdrive pulley on your cable modem? It adds 10% bandwidth.

For real, though:

TCP and UDP are both transport protocols above the IP layer, which are interfaces between IP and upper-layer processes. TCP and UDP protocol port numbers are designed to distinguish multiple applications running on a single device from one another.

Since many network applications may be running on the same machine, computers need something to make sure the correct software application on the destination computer gets the data packets from the source machine, and some way to make sure replies get routed to the correct application on the source computer. This is accomplished through the use of the TCP or UDP "port numbers". In the TCP and UDP header, there are "Source Port" and "Destination Port" fields which are used to indicate the message sending process and receiving process identities defined. The combination of the IP address and the port number is called "socket".

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:50 am

oops, i really thought he meant ICP and had his mind in the engine bay (as oppose to the gutter, no? ah forget it)

Post by **Diablo0** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:45 pm

.. yes for once my mind wasn't in the gutter...