Just wanted to remind you...

[Adionik]

What the fuck shit?

Like to scare riders? If any of you guys did what you say you do to teach us a "lesson" i would drag you out of your fucking car and beat your ass in the middle of an intersection. You'd be picking carbon fiber out of your teeth for a week.

Seriously, that's some fucked up shit. Like wenuden said it's not your job to police us.

Then again i wouldn't expect either of those who made those comments to understand what real speed is considering you drive a neon. My 0-60 is 10x faster than your damn car...and it's nothing to go even faster without a quarter throttle turn.

One of my best friends is in the hospital right now, lost his left arm and broke almost every bone in both his legs and remaining arm. While it wasn't a cager...to wish pain or anything upon a person makes my blood boil.

Ah. So when they are goin to fast and can't stop at the red light and take out your wife and 2 year old kid walking across the street we should still respect them? Let them crash their bike into my car becuase they want to learn wheelies on a busy road? Get real.

If YOU want to talk about being real then you need to look at the reality of bike crashes. 99% of the time the biker is fucked up if not killed and the car is scratched or rarely banged up. Never this killing my family bullshit...get real. Just because you're too much of a pussy to control a crotch rocket doesn't mean others don't.

nitehawk - I didn't know you did something like that man, that's pretty fucked up. I've had people do that to me on the highway and in the streets and you could've killed that rider. For what? To learn a lesson? I fucking hate cagers like you

What originally starts out as a post to encourage rider awareness shows the true pricks and assholes in 15sec cars...lovely

[SILVER-ES]

Like to scare riders? If any of you guys did what you say you do to teach us a "lesson" i would drag you out of your fucking car and beat your ass in the middle of an intersection. You'd be picking carbon fiber out of your teeth for a week.



Then again i wouldn't expect either of those who made those comments to understand what real speed is considering you drive a neon. My 0-60 is 10x faster than your damn car...and it's nothing to go even faster without a quarter throttle turn.



What originally starts out as a post to encourage rider awareness shows the true pricks and assholes in 15sec cars...lovely

The immaturity in this thread is rampant.

Congratulations, you have a fast bike! Now what is the point of flying by "cagers" at 120+ or splitting traffic?

And seriously, a guy on foot in an intersection versus a driver in a "cage"? If that "cager" had any sense he'd probably just run you over. Then you're picking goodyear out of your intestines.

[Adionik]

I'm just saying that you can't compare speeding on a bike vs a car. I have seen over a dozen motorcycle accidents in the past month and none of them have gotten anyone but themselves hurt.

I don't split traffic...nor do I go inbetween cars or ride fast on streets.

But for the highway doing 80+ is no different than an SUV

I ride fast but i'm within my limits. From one rider to another it's hilarious when you say you endager other people. You really have no idea...nor would I expect you guys to. You're cages.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

i never knew you were so damn immature Adionik. What is with people waving around their dicks saying "yea well my [insert bike/car/horse/mo-ped/cat] is faster than your [insert slow object poster owns]!!!"

wewt for you

now i wouldn't do shit to endanger another person on the road, but attitudes like yours is the reason i pray to the god i don't believe in that you lay your bike down and end up in the hospital like your good friend. Teaches a good lesson in life not to fuck around now doesn't it? jackass

[SILVER-ES]

I fully agree, I've seen my share of motorcycle accidents and it's always the rider that loses.

I don't agree with either side. Bikes shouldn't feel free to split traffic, speed excessively because they easily can, or ride on the shoulder but "cagers" shouldn't feel free to police them either.

I had a buddy kill himself on his bike about a year and a half ago. Completely his fault, he slammed into the back of a small SUV at 115+. Killed himself on impact and actually did injure the driver and passenger. While it sucks that he's gone I don't have a ton of sympathy for people who injure/kill themselves while endangering many others.

There are assholes both in cars and on bikes. That will never change. What is pointless if the assholes who think they should control the other assholes or the assholes who are assholes because they are fast enough to be assholes.

[Adionik]

I'm immature? We have people slamming on their brakes and thinking it's their right to scare the shit out of riders and I'M immature? This is going to be a losing arguement because in your thick ass heads you will always be right in your efforts to shove your morals down others head.

BTW I have never made any negative comments about all the street racing threads you've created lately Opi, way to be a fucking hypocrite. You think you're in more "control" than I am on a bike? I don't think so

I don't agree with either side. Bikes shouldn't feel free to split traffic, speed excessively because they easily can, or ride on the shoulder but "cagers" shouldn't feel free to police them either.

Those are the new riders. Since gas prices have gone up I have seen SO many bikes out. Guys wearing only sunglasses and a t-shirt. Even if it's 100+ degrees outside i'll go out in a jacket, boots, pants, gloves and helmet...no matter what. These new riders don't give a shit...these are the lane cutters and the wheelie guys you talk of. Shit it used to be that you pulled up to a redline and could usually chat with the rider next to you. For the first time the other day I pulled up and the rider pretended as I was never there...new riders.

[SILVER-ES]

How is he a hypocrite? He was implying you are immature because of your e-cock syndrome my shit's faster then yours so I'm better. Find me a post Opi has made like that and I too will call him a hypocrite.

Those are the new riders. Since gas prices have gone up I have seen SO many bikes out. Guys wearing only sunglasses and a t-shirt. Even if it's 100+ degrees outside i'll go out in a jacket, boots, pants, gloves and helmet...no matter what. These new riders don't give a shit...these are the lane cutters and the wheelie guys you talk of. Shit it used to be that you pulled up to a redline and could usually chat with the rider next to you. For the first time the other day I pulled up and the rider pretended as I was never there...new riders.

So you don't want us "cagers" to judge all riders based on a few. Don't judge all "cagers" based on the select few that mess with riders.

[Adionik]

Um, if you want to preach safety you shouldn't be that active in the Street Racing section. We're not talking about the whose faster thing, it's that hauling ass and slamming into other cars kills people no matter what. Whether it's a bike or a cobalt...it'll still kill someone.

[SILVER-ES]

Maybe it's just me, but the way I read his post he is saying you are immature for your attitude., not your actions. The "my shits 10x faster," "I'm so much better because I can "control" by bike better then you can your car."

Who are you to say you are a better driver then him? Hell, just going by age he has more experience then you.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

i got defense because of, like chris said, the whole e-cock shit. i'm so fucking sick of people throwing that out in an argument.

"yea don't know what real speed is" bla bla, fucking bla. you don't know real speed either. hit 7's or 8's in the 1/4 mile. then hit lower than that. remember, there is ALWAYS someone faster. stop acting like you're tough shit.

i also don't bother to threaten people on this board.

"f any of you guys did what you say you do to teach us a "lesson" i would drag you out of your fucking car and beat your ass"

flashing you HUGE fucking e-cock again. my god. grow up man. i actually had some respect for you until this thread was posted.

and to think, i was going to give Dan shit for the whole millkshake thing and defend bikers some. as long as they don't do stupid shit on the highway, i keep a healthy distance from them and let them HAVE the road, clearly some of you bikers shouldn't even be allowed on the showroom floor to buy one

[SILVER-ES]

Whether it's a bike or a cobalt...it'll still kill someone.

Couldn't agree more, unfortunately for the riders when they crash it's usually themselves. Which is why all the peole who throw stuff at them or cut them off need to back off. It's not your job to police the road. Do you throw milkshakes at speeding cars or street racers, what about the old rusted out pinto that is just waiting to have it's hub fall off and careen out of control causing a 10 car pileup? Neither side is right in this argument. Alot of riders have a stupid us > "cagers" mindset and alot of "cagers" have an I own the road mindset. Neither group is ever going to see eye to eye.

[Adionik]

I have respect for you as well Opi, but you drew the first blow calling me out on what needs to be done to drivers. Licenses these days are given out like candy. Do you know how many times i've been cut off by some dumb bitch on her cell phone? Do you not think she deserved an ass whooping if I crashed and broke my back?

I've had people swerve across 3 lanes almost as if they were TRYING TO hit my ass...whose going to explain to my parents i'm dead because some dipshit couldn't drive...despite my bike going the speed limit? You guys don't see that, none of the injustices or fuck ups the average cager does. None of it.

as long as they don't do stupid shit on the highway, i keep a healthy distance from them and let them HAVE the road.

And that's how it should be, and I thank you for that. I drive scared. Scared that the next asshole in the F-350 isn't going to see me and send me 6ft under.

Couldn't agree more, unfortunately for the riders when they crash it's usually themselves.

Yeah that is true. My friend almost lost his life from a rock in the road...got headshake, tried to ditch the bike and it flipped for over 250 yards, throwing him through 200 of it while losing limbs. He had been riding for years and was the best rider I knew. Thank god he's not dead but it's not always the riders fault




I really don't mean to come off as an asshole although i'm sure that opinion has already been formed but from a bikers point of view to see people thinking it's okay to cut off riders to teach them a lesson pisses me the fuck off.

The new riders that haul ass and wheelie can diaf though. If a guy has brand new paper plates, flip flops and no helmet you can usually assume he is a new rider.

[SILVER-ES]

but it's not always the riders fault

And it's not always the "cagers" fault either. Some riders truely are assholes and don't ride scared, they ride like they can do whatever they want.

Like I said above, there is a lot of lumping people into groups in this thread and as long as that is happening nothing good will come from this.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

wait, wait, wait... called you out? where did i call you out? i gave wen some shit about the pistol, laughed at the milkshake, and said i hate bikers, they freak me out. there was no calling you out.

i started some shit with you throwing around the "my bike is better than your neon" bullshit. but didn't call you out.

i agree, about 40% of the people on the road should NOT drive. simple as that. do i think someone needs their ass beat because they broke your back? fuck no i don't.

i think they should be tried in the court of law and dealt with properly.

[Adionik]

Aside from the dumbasses that rider drunk or out of their skill level...

It's usually the cage.

Silver-ES. Do you ride?

i started some shit with you throwing around the "my bike is better than your neon" bullshit. but didn't call you out.

That's not E-thugging no more than it is an E-cock or whatever...it's the truth. It maybe a truth you don't like to face but i'm 2400lbs lighter with more HP...I don't see how that's a false claim? (Well my current DD is a 600 so it doesn't have more HP, but the R1 i'm going to get will have more)

[SILVER-ES]

No, I don't ride.

It's usually the cage.

That right there is why we will never see eye to eye. I've seen my fair share of motorcycle collisions and most have been the riders fault. Speed, inexperience, stupidity, all the things you attribute to the "cagers" have been what caused the all mighty rider to crash.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

don't like to face what? i don't give two shits if there's something out there faster than my cobalt. fuck, my cobalt is slow, and i'm happy with this. if i wasn't, i'd toss all the money i have into stereo/appearance mods and go performance now wouldn't i?

hell, i don't race to win, i race to have fun with the guy i'm facing. i don't do it for money, i don't do it to show i'm better, i do it because it's exciting.

go ahead and drive your little bike. at least when i smash into a wall there's a better chance of me living

[Adionik]

I have rode enough to see that people behind the wheel are fucking retarded morons, and almost all of them are on their cell phone. As it is adults have a hard time changing the radio and staying in the same lane, much less avoiding 6ft of metal with 2 wheels

[SILVER-ES]

You are blind to the fact that riders are often at fault too, why is that? I watch people drive every day and agree that most shouldn't be, but that goes for bikes too.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

and this adult has steering wheel controls, a bluetooth feature on his headunit so i don't have to pick up my phone, and a nice big ass in-dash so i can glance over at the screen and see what's going on so i don't take my eyes off the road much so

[Adionik]

I just got done saying what I had to say about new riders but I assume you over looked that. I'll admit there are a lot of dumbass riders that DO NOT belong on the road, but that doesn't change that people need to drive more attentively. I went to the base and they have signs everywhere that restricts talking on the phone while driving...the need to have that everywhere

Opi you drive a superchaged cobalt...it's quite apparent you have no need for speed

[SILVER-ES]

Nope, saw that. Do you honestly believe only new riders hurt themselves or cause crashes? Many experineced riders crash too, just like many long time "cagers" Anyone and everyone can crash, it's not just new drivers.

[Adionik]

I would say 99% of them do. Experienced riders know not to cut lanes, drink, all kinds of shit that would get them killed. That's what makes them experienced.

Like I said...you've driven a car and ONLY a car so you'll never understand. Despite what crashes you've "observed" you will never know.

[Mr Josh Zombie]

how ignorant

[Adionik]

I <3 you too opi

[J-Villa]

i just don't understand how many of you guys will say the things you said in this thread....most of the people who said things either have street raced, talk about doing 120+, weeve traffic, and drive totally wreckless, some members i have scene myself at the meets. I am quilty myself.

But to be completely ignorant of your own actions when making your comments towards bikes is just unreal. Just because you do something in your car doesn't make it right, nor does it if your on a bike.

Regardless if your in a 18 wheeler, bike, trike, car, scooter whatever, you should drive responsibly.

And adionik, i am sorry. I am a fellow rider myself. My whole entire family rides. My dad is a sales rep for harley. Most of the motorcycle accidents out there are indeed the riders faults. Just b/c you are good on your bike doesn't mean the majority out there is.

I agree with chris. He is on the opposite side of us. The law. He sees things accidents and issues like this first hand. If he says something, it's probably b/c it's already happen 1xmillion times.

I respect bikers the same as i would a car or a truck. And you should do the same.

[Adionik]

The last accidents I can think of off the top of my head were:

-Soldier back from Iraq bought brand new GSXR, didn't wear a helmet. Hit a curb and died
-Harley guy got drunk at party and took a turn leading to his death
-Rider hauling ass tried lane cutting and got killed by an 18 wheeler

Those are all examples of morons riding past their limits and inevitably causing their own accidents...but doesn't put cagers in the clear

[J-Villa]

i don't understand why you are in super defense?

i drive cars, i feel i'm better than the average driver, i don't have accidents. But does that not mean others drive dont' have that problem?

And i have known lots of accidents where bikers go down b/c too fast in corners, gravels, going fast, not looking in mirrors when passing or turning head, bike failure b/c of improper maitanence, and so on.

I was happy when you made this thread...people DO need to be aware of bikers....I got really bothered by the peoples reaction in this thread. But you can't change ignorance.

[Adionik]

I've been wronged a lot by cagers...i've had them completely come into my lane, cut me off. All kinds of shit. If I come back after riding, I come back with a story about someone that didn't know how to drive.

[J-Villa]

i get that everyday when i drive my car? i get that when i'm in my car when i see a biker? what's your point?