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Street Racing

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:10 pm
by Xtian

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:13 pm
by glasswars
srt-4 pwnt

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:50 pm
by jetas
Oh yes legalize street racing.... Theyre not very bright are they

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:25 pm
by MyNeonSaysHi
Dumber than a sack of rocks.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:52 pm
by racer12306
THERE WERE TAG NUMBERS, BUSTED

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:52 pm
by heyitsstock
ahahahaha the onion is sooo funnnyyyy

all the funny stories the make up and exaggerate..


....o wait

THEY'RE SERIOUS?

BAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

THATS EVEN FUNNIER

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:13 pm
by mopar4life
R O F L!

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:05 pm
by Sykora
wow nice srt :) and that was funny

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:52 am
by jrumann59
How do you make street racing legal but still have speed limits?

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:19 am
by hansken_yo
I don't have a solution handy to the problems associated with street racing, but it would be great if instead of denying and punishing, people would embrace and redirect this following into something productive and available legally.

Yes, there are race tracks, but it is my understanding that the availability to drag race is very limited, expensive and in some situations just too far away. I'm not condoning street racing, but just stating an opinion that we should look for a compromise of sorts for those for it and against it.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:09 pm
by Cabbs
I definitely agree hansken_yo. I live in the area this happened (I was there when the raid happened lol) and while Pacific Raceway isn't that far away, it's not open very often.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:07 pm
by GreeNeons03
So how did that big "Demonstration" turn out? Everyone = Busted? :rofl:

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:53 pm
by Cabbs
Pretty much. Couldn't have picked a better night to go. I didn't even know it was a demonstration, I was hoping to see the 400-500WHP Evo that's there sometimes.

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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:30 am
by jrumann59
hansken_yo wrote:I don't have a solution handy to the problems associated with street racing, but it would be great if instead of denying and punishing, people would embrace and redirect this following into something productive and available legally.

Yes, there are race tracks, but it is my understanding that the availability to drag race is very limited, expensive and in some situations just too far away. I'm not condoning street racing, but just stating an opinion that we should look for a compromise of sorts for those for it and against it.

So in essence the taxpayer that doesn't participate in these activities has to foot the bill to have a "sanctioned" race night every week because it is "inconvenient" for racers to take it to a track. The police and safety workers need to get paid for this "waste" of time when there are more important emergencies and crimes going on. Makes perfect sense to me.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:44 am
by jetas
jrumann59 wrote:
hansken_yo wrote:I don't have a solution handy to the problems associated with street racing, but it would be great if instead of denying and punishing, people would embrace and redirect this following into something productive and available legally.

Yes, there are race tracks, but it is my understanding that the availability to drag race is very limited, expensive and in some situations just too far away. I'm not condoning street racing, but just stating an opinion that we should look for a compromise of sorts for those for it and against it.

So in essence the taxpayer that doesn't participate in these activities has to foot the bill to have a "sanctioned" race night every week because it is "inconvenient" for racers to take it to a track. The police and safety workers need to get paid for this "waste" of time when there are more important emergencies and crimes going on. Makes perfect sense to me.
Well if you think of it, its not going to be street racing anymore. in all honesty i might be the only one to say this but id rather have the city use my tax money to do that then lose another innocent life due to racing

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:03 pm
by jrumann59
jetas wrote:
jrumann59 wrote:
hansken_yo wrote:I don't have a solution handy to the problems associated with street racing, but it would be great if instead of denying and punishing, people would embrace and redirect this following into something productive and available legally.

Yes, there are race tracks, but it is my understanding that the availability to drag race is very limited, expensive and in some situations just too far away. I'm not condoning street racing, but just stating an opinion that we should look for a compromise of sorts for those for it and against it.

So in essence the taxpayer that doesn't participate in these activities has to foot the bill to have a "sanctioned" race night every week because it is "inconvenient" for racers to take it to a track. The police and safety workers need to get paid for this "waste" of time when there are more important emergencies and crimes going on. Makes perfect sense to me.
Well if you think of it, its not going to be street racing anymore. in all honesty i might be the only one to say this but id rather have the city use my tax money to do that then lose another innocent life due to racing
How would you feel that the ambulances, fire trucks and 6 police officers that are there and you have a real emergency and it takes them an extra 5-10 minutes to get to where you are because they have the closest ones tied up at an event that should be at a real track where all those provisions are made, and only the spectators and racers pay to get in. Inconvenience is hardly an excuse to make something legal. We won't even go into infrastructure problems, like most public streets are hardly safe to do 65 on let alone 100 mph, who pays for the repaving?

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:36 am
by jetas
jrumann59 wrote:
jetas wrote:
jrumann59 wrote:
So in essence the taxpayer that doesn't participate in these activities has to foot the bill to have a "sanctioned" race night every week because it is "inconvenient" for racers to take it to a track. The police and safety workers need to get paid for this "waste" of time when there are more important emergencies and crimes going on. Makes perfect sense to me.
Well if you think of it, its not going to be street racing anymore. in all honesty i might be the only one to say this but id rather have the city use my tax money to do that then lose another innocent life due to racing
How would you feel that the ambulances, fire trucks and 6 police officers that are there and you have a real emergency and it takes them an extra 5-10 minutes to get to where you are because they have the closest ones tied up at an event that should be at a real track where all those provisions are made, and only the spectators and racers pay to get in. Inconvenience is hardly an excuse to make something legal. We won't even go into infrastructure problems, like most public streets are hardly safe to do 65 on let alone 100 mph, who pays for the repaving?
theres plenty of streets in every city where theres minimal to no traffic, its up to them if they wana fuck up their cars on potholes while doing 80-120 mph. And there is more than a couple ambulances, fire trucks and 6 police officers in cities... im not saying to legalize the shit i just stated my opinion. No need to start ANOTHER arguement over street racing. You along with many others have made it clear that street racing is bad.

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:09 am
by Adionik
Street racing FTW!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:50 am
by mattern248
i don't give two shit in the wind cuz were i live you take off to fast to get to the speed limit and your pulled over already. are police to citizen ratio is insane on holidays there is at least three cops and every big lght in town. then again tho prescott is one of the biggest rehab filled towns in the south west( i think, remember reading about it somewere)

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:30 am
by SILVER-ES
I....

When....

Hmmm....

*backs out of thread*

:banghead:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:55 am
by hansken_yo
jetas wrote:
jrumann59 wrote:
jetas wrote: Well if you think of it, its not going to be street racing anymore. in all honesty i might be the only one to say this but id rather have the city use my tax money to do that then lose another innocent life due to racing
How would you feel that the ambulances, fire trucks and 6 police officers that are there and you have a real emergency and it takes them an extra 5-10 minutes to get to where you are because they have the closest ones tied up at an event that should be at a real track where all those provisions are made, and only the spectators and racers pay to get in. Inconvenience is hardly an excuse to make something legal. We won't even go into infrastructure problems, like most public streets are hardly safe to do 65 on let alone 100 mph, who pays for the repaving?
theres plenty of streets in every city where theres minimal to no traffic, its up to them if they wana fuck up their cars on potholes while doing 80-120 mph. And there is more than a couple ambulances, fire trucks and 6 police officers in cities... im not saying to legalize the shit i just stated my opinion. No need to start ANOTHER arguement over street racing. You along with many others have made it clear that street racing is bad.
I was merely suggesting we look for a means of approaching the rising situation regarding street racers in a more positive manner. For example: Skateboarding. While growing up everyone hated skateboarders, had signs up making it illegal to skateboard anywhere practically and now look at it today where cities make skateboard parks where people can go and play that their own risk. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE of the kind of positive means of solving problems.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:34 am
by Haganracing
I can see it now...

"Ok guys! We are going to show them what street racing is about, but they say we have to follow the law. So don't spin your tires, don't drive too close, and when you get to 55mph turn your cruise control on so we dont go over the speedlimit."

Wow.. that video was funny!

Another reason to just take it to the track.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:17 am
by jrumann59
The problem with tracks are, they aren't very profitable when it comes to test and tunes and open track days, these tracks need to be able to bring in the pros. So unlike skate parks which have little upkeep and can be place anywhere tracks will never be put near a huge population center for various reasons.

As to the fellow that thinks I was arguing with him I was not I was just countering your points. Legalizing something is hardly as easy as "poof" you are now legal, many things have to go into consideration and unfortunately resources and money are the biggest.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:06 am
by racer12306
How are test and tunes or street nights not profitable?

Yes it is less to get in than on a points day, but there is no payout and staffing is less. At Cecil they hardly spray the line (certainly not like they do on points day)

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:43 pm
by grambo
Try a track boneheads...geez.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:55 pm
by Adionik
Okay...after last night almost getting killed by a fucking CRX that could not drive worth a shit, it makes me realize something.

Even though me and my friends have enough common sense to race on the highway and cause no problems, crashes or issues....fuck legalizing it. The stupid ass Honda crowd that likes fucking racing in the middle of traffic needs to Diaf, and their habits will never change...

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:04 pm
by grambo
Adionik wrote:Okay...after last night almost getting killed by a fucking CRX that could not drive worth a shit, it makes me realize something.

Even though me and my friends have enough common sense to race on the highway and cause no problems, crashes or issues....fuck legalizing it. The stupid ass Honda crowd that likes fucking racing in the middle of traffic needs to Diaf, and their habits will never change...
Idiots like that make my relationship with the Highway Patrol very tense in the Subie. I hate them with a deep passion. :banghead:

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:22 pm
by Canada
Adionik wrote:Okay...after last night almost getting killed by a fucking CRX that could not drive worth a shit, it makes me realize something.

Even though me and my friends have enough common sense to race on the highway and cause no problems, crashes or issues....fuck legalizing it. The stupid ass Honda crowd that likes fucking racing in the middle of traffic needs to Diaf, and their habits will never change...
THIS. Makes you no better then the "stupid ass Honda crowd" that you are ranting at. You deserve the same fate you wish on them.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:11 am
by jrumann59
racer12306 wrote:How are test and tunes or street nights not profitable?

Yes it is less to get in than on a points day, but there is no payout and staffing is less. At Cecil they hardly spray the line (certainly not like they do on points day)
When I used to go the stands do not get that full and the entry cost probably covers everything that is needed for safety but profits are can't be more than 2-3% How much does it cost to rent a track for the day a $2k