Adionik wrote:Opi wrote:as much of a dick as Sean is sounding, i believe his main point is correct.
Start a family, then decide.
Your kids > Your Toys
I didn't read any of the thread but this post makes the most sense.
I hate when people don't read and post.
Seans post in its entirety:
Jerry, you're telling him that selling both of his cars now (of which, I wouldn't expect to get more than 6Kish combined) for a 5K car (basically having roughly 750ish left out of that deal after title transfer, etc) WHILE TRYING TO GET PREGNANT is the responsible thing to do?
We will just see how this all pans out. I'm not going to fuck myself in this situation. I make a point of that with everything I do, in the end I'm almost always on top. thats what she said, figured this thread needed a smidge of humor
That's my argument. He has a Prius for WORK. Not supposed to do personal shit in it. His wife has a Caliber, close enough to the mommy-mobile.
The company understands realistic situations. Most would make you go home get your car and then go get the kid, but I think I got a good one. We were at the company's 50th Anniversary party last night, Jessica was extremely impressed with everything she saw and its family orientation. She specifically said I could definitely see you working here for 20 or more years.
So the Camaro would sit in the driveway almost useless while he's out of town working, and get an OCCASIONAL drive around, 90% of the time with the kid. Higher insurance higher theft rate on a car that will just sit in the open. Not to mention, selling ONE of the two cars, either the Neon or the Monte, you still have a backup vehicle that's less likely to get ripped off, PLUS you aren't potentially buying someone else's problem.
Buying a problem is a risk, very true. But being the savy person I am can probably fix it 
. But that would take me away from the home, but in the end its a SBC and they are pretty reliable cars. The theft issue is like that with any car, the Neon, a Camaro or a Geo Metro.
In my opinion, and my main argument here, it is more financially responsible (not to mention more parentally responsible, IMHO) to dump the toys for now, and keep as much spare cash around as possible since kids are really damn expensive. After a year or two of being a daddy, decide if you can really afford that f body, or whatever toy you want. You'll have a much better idea of where your at, financially, as well as whether it's even worth it to have a
kid.
Refer to the above not gonna fuck myself policy. Is it a toy? Yes. Will it be a money pit? No. I not trying to get a car that I will need to mod the hell out of, thus the reason to get a car with 275hp. Either way I need a car for my personal business, might as well be one with a little snap.
Don't forget Frank, Jessica will be taking care of the kid 90% of the time with your work schedule, so when you ARE home, you need to have time set aside for her, as well as for her to get some fresh air away from the kid.
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Also, Frank has mentioned that he wants to take the F body to the track... with the wife and kid. Wife, sure. A toddler or younger, has no business at all being at the track even with adequate ear protection, IMHO. Too many ways for them to get into trouble. Not to mention, you'd be having fun... Jessica would still be watching the kid. Not exactly a break for her.
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1. I do not travel 90% of the time. If I had to put a percentage on it, I would say it is 40-50% if not less looking at the big picture. I have also talked to my boss about the traveling and kids and such and he is ok with backing down the full week trips. Also, she will be working her full time schedule.
2. I really don't see what the big deal with having car A in the driveway instead of car B. Regardless this car is driven very little. I get that coupes aren't the best car to have for kids, its the reason I got my Monte SS so cheap. The difference in this situation is that the car is not a primary driver, like it was in the case of my Montes previous owner. The car will remain stock or be very lightly modded, therefore there won't need to be hours working on it.
3. I guess the track thing is just something that someone who didn't grow up around racing won't get. I was pretty young when I started going with my dad to the track. It was an awesome experience it brought us together. I raced Jr Dragsters starting at 10 years old and then moved into a Stock Eliminator Sundance and then the Vega. I think my dad and I are slipping apart some and if we still raced together it may be better (may sound stupid to some, but others will get it)
) and child experience. Most boys wind up being at least a little into cars its nice to have a person that knows what they are doing around cars for that interest to be expressed on is a good thing. That might be hard to do with a baby but even having him in his car seat (apparently when I was little my favorite place was in the car) or something would be a start. As the child grows Frank is close enough to some good tracks that whatever they want to do (Jr.Drag, Karts, Midgets,etc) shouldnt be a problem. 
