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Post by contagious18 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:40 am

TheRandom1 wrote:Chris, did you fail to see the part where the referee was helping Favre put his shoulder pads back under his jersey? Or other games where refs helped him back up?
do u know how many times the refs have done that this season. i still remember when the ref helped him up against the 49ers and told him " go get them" i read his lips damn ref.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:28 am

I know, that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Refs are supposed to be fair and impartial, yet time and again, they'd walk right on over and help him up, or pull his jersey back over his shoulder pads, etc. No way in hell they can be impartial if they're showing favoritism that way. It'd be different if they did it for everybody, but for as much football as Ive watched this year, Favre is the ONLY guy I've seen them doing this for.
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Post by dtjackten » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:29 am

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dtjackten wrote:i dont know... i think there was alot of calls that went with the saints side... two touchdowns, that the one was DEFFENETLY NOT... (two or three yards short) and the other one by bush, his knee was touching out of bounds before the ball was over the line... idk... those are two pritty big calls..

no matter the vikings honestly did not deserve to with that game... they played terrible.. still a great game to watch non the less...
+1 I was rooting for them too. Very bad decisions on Favre's part

i dont think u can blame it all on farve... granted the one bad decition in the fourth quarter.... but he would not of had to try to force something if they did not get the 12 men in the huddle penilty.

i mean i know he had two interceptions, but i mean common FOUR fumbles... i think the vikings has butterd popcorn before the game or something...
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Post by neonslg09 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:29 am

Maybe because he has been in the game for almost twenty years? Showing respect. Maybe he asks them for his help?

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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:36 am

neonslg09 wrote:Maybe because he has been in the game for almost twenty years? Showing respect. Maybe he asks them for his help?
Showing respect has nothing to do with it. As a "fair and impartial" referee, you don't show one player more respect than any other, otherwise you are no longer "fair and impartial."
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Post by neonslg09 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:44 am

You cant lie, veterans get treated differently, than rookies.

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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:52 am

Interestingly enough, Drew Brees has not received ANY of that treatment, and he's not anywhere near a rookie. Nor has Kurt Warner, and I hear he's played a year or two...

It's not because Favre is a veteran, simple as that.
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Post by rOniN » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:57 am

As a referee it is very easy to help someone out and still do your job. It may look like you are showing favoritism or something but if you are at that level you know how to do your job. Everyone is human so referees will make a mistake every now and then, but helping out someone isn't going to change anything.

If you watch a lot of football you will notice the referees joking with players or helping them out...it's not uncommon. You will see this a lot if you watch soccer...the center official is almost as famous as many star players in some leagues. They joke and talk but they will still draw the line and make the calls as they see it.

I refereed Division 1 soccer for 3 years and I've helped players up and joked with a lot of them. I still followed the rules exactly how they were written and although I knew a lot of players I would still deal with them like anyone else if they broke one.

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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:15 am

Talking or joking is one thing. But when you stand right next to one downed veteran and ignore their hand, then go and help another up, it IS favoritism. And that's happened all this year. Favre is the only QB I've seen who has received that treatment.
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Post by dtjackten » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:15 pm

i must of missed it when the ref helped up farve????? was it in the saints game??? or another one?

u do see them joke alot with refs.. and that goes with all the players... i mean the refs are there to do a job... but what says u can not have fun doing ur job??? right???


i have played alot of sports in my day... and almost all the refs i have ever delt with from highschool and college leval... they are all very down to earth people..
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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:34 pm

I have no problem with the players and refs talking or joking. My issue is with them helping him up, etc. In the Saints game, the ref helped Favre tuck his shoulder pads under his jersey.

In the game before that one, the ref extended a hand and helped him up while Favre had teammates around him that should have done it.
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Post by dtjackten » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:20 pm

i see what ur talking about, i saw the shoulder pad, and i did not see anything wrong with that, he was just helpin him. but the helping him up thing that is messed up i think
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Post by TheRandom1 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:22 pm

A ref should not be doing that at all. No physical contact at all unless it's restraint.
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Post by racer12306 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:52 pm

The refs have made some shitty calls this year. The last thing they should be doing is giving even the slightest hint of favoritism.
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Post by ragek23 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:20 pm

ragek23 wrote:since all my teams are out I am gonna have to go with the saints on this one. If they bring what they had the rest of the season they should be fine.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:54 pm

What a great damn game...
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Post by ragek23 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:37 pm

it was great! I was glad we got to use one of my school's lecture halls and watch the game on a projector :). The game was good and close for most of it which made it 100% worth watching.

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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:27 am

And... both teams played DEFENSE!!!!! I think I saw exactly 3 defensive plays before the game yesterday.
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Post by racer12306 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:03 am

Awesome game.

The better team won. The Saints straightup out played the Colts.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:11 am

That is the truth.
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