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theTeejmiester wrote:ticket, law is the law. no exeptions for me, no exeptions for you

You're assuming no officers give exceptions, which is completely false.

I expect that if I ever get pulled over by Officer Miller, he would pass me a light

To the OP, it sounds like your class was a lot like mine. We almost had a 50/50 split. The teacher pretty much said its up to the officer, however if this is an ongoing problem or he really did something dangerous, calling his supervisor usually get results pretty quick.

It's a camaraderie thing. If I'm getting shot at, stabbed, beat up, they will have my back, and vice versa. That's just me.

Unless they are doing something COMPLETELY stupid.

To my knowledge, he is supposed to have his lights on if there is an emergency or a reason for him to go fast. If it is unsafe for me to go 80, how is it safe for him to?

If the cop is trying to get somewhere quickly without letting everyone know (say a robbery for example?) he doesn't have to turn on his lights or siren (at least in MI). This is also why some cops turn on their lights to run a red light then turn them off again.

And lastly, Cops have more drivers training then you. This is why they can go 80 and you cant.

Passt wrote:

theTeejmiester wrote:ticket, law is the law. no exeptions for me, no exeptions for you

You're assuming no officers give exceptions, which is completely false.

I wish I'd ever gotten off with a warning. I'm always respectful, courteous, and truthful.


FUCK DA POLICE!

I had an officer pull me over 2 weeks ago.. For my tinted taillights.. He made some big dancing speal in the mall parking lot where i parked about how people cant see my tail lights.. It was pretty funny and i was laughing, i saw him smile a bit from me laughing.

Let me off with a warning, didn't even bother asking me for my license or registration.

I've got a few warnings in my years. One was for 25 AND 30mph over the limit.

Ntyvirus1 wrote:forgot to mention in the above scenario that as the ticketing officer walked up to the car the driver pasted his badge on the window before he could be told anything.

If I was the ticketing officer that would upset me to see him put up his badge like its all good. And if he was definitely doing something outlandish on the streets he is getting a ticket, regardless of officers giving warnings here and there, this is now and right now whatever the driver did prior to getting pulled over was illegal. You can't just cut your buddy some slack when he is trying to be "above the law" just because he is an officer too. In a way I do understand where you are coming from Nate but on the civilian perspective of it, it just wouldn't seem right to let him go off about his business like he did nothing wrong.

LionheartedSXT wrote:

Ntyvirus1 wrote:forgot to mention in the above scenario that as the ticketing officer walked up to the car the driver pasted his badge on the window before he could be told anything.

If I was the ticketing officer that would upset me to see him put up his badge like its all good. And if he was definitely doing something outlandish on the streets he is getting a ticket, regardless of officers giving warnings here and there, this is now and right now whatever the driver did prior to getting pulled over was illegal. You can't just cut your buddy some slack when he is trying to be "above the law" just because he is an officer too. In a way I do understand where you are coming from Nate but on the civilian perspective of it, it just wouldn't seem right to let him go off about his business like he did nothing wrong.

You say that now, but you're a civilian not "one of the boys". They don't necessarily think or act the same way anyone else would.

sidepipe87 wrote:
FUCK DA POLICE!

Hmmm - why not?

Jenni wrote:

sidepipe87 wrote:
FUCK DA POLICE!

Hmmm - why not?

hmmm, cannot see the picture at work.
but i know one thing:
those guys who yell "fuck da police" are the same guys who are the first to yell "police please help" if someone touches them.

You really wanna live in a world without police? With law of the jungle?
I don't think so.


But hmmm, i guess we leave the topic....

Passt wrote:Tough question. There are a lot of different factors to take into consideration. Does the officer automatically expect professional courtesy and act like a tool because of this?

Most everyone who isn't an officer will make the point that police should be held to the same standard as they hold the public to. With that said, you have no clue how that officer chooses to use his discretion with civilians he deals with. Some officers are very lenient and informative and nice, others write a ticket for each and every stop, no matter what the reason for the stop is. It simply just depends.

If I pull over an officer, I let them go. It's a camaraderie thing. If I'm getting shot at, stabbed, beat up, they will have my back, and vice versa. That's just me. I also don't drive like an asshole becase I think I can get away with it.

I respect police officers because their job is inherently more dangerous than most peoples and they put up with shit that normal folks like me dont have to but the part in bold sounds more like bribery than camaraderie to me.

i know officers who drive like idiots - and there's no reason to let them get away with that!

Jenni wrote:hmmm, cannot see the picture at work.
but i know one thing:
those guys who yell "fuck da police" are the same guys who are the first to yell "police please help" if someone touches them.

You really wanna live in a world without police? With law of the jungle?
I don't think so.


But hmmm, i guess we leave the topic....

First off, most of those people yelling 'fuck the police' as in the picture i posted are NOT running to the cops when they have an issue... they just shoot the person.

Second, do you not get sarcasm?

like i said - i'm sorry i cannot see the picture here (and had no time yet to look at home).
sure i know.
hmmm, what i first tried to said was hmmm, how can i explain.
Okay:
I said the same to one of my collegues in the police school (very nice 20 year old girl) - and then i did....

Another collegue (female) returned to one guy yelling that in the train station with "you really think you're man enough for me?"....



But uuuuh - now i think i'm lost in translations...

bombtrack07 wrote:

Passt wrote:Tough question. There are a lot of different factors to take into consideration. Does the officer automatically expect professional courtesy and act like a tool because of this?

Most everyone who isn't an officer will make the point that police should be held to the same standard as they hold the public to. With that said, you have no clue how that officer chooses to use his discretion with civilians he deals with. Some officers are very lenient and informative and nice, others write a ticket for each and every stop, no matter what the reason for the stop is. It simply just depends.

If I pull over an officer, I let them go. It's a camaraderie thing. If I'm getting shot at, stabbed, beat up, they will have my back, and vice versa. That's just me. I also don't drive like an asshole becase I think I can get away with it.

I respect police officers because their job is inherently more dangerous than most peoples and they put up with shit that normal folks like me dont have to but the part in bold sounds more like bribery than camaraderie to me.

99% of the time they're not pulled over by people they actually work with, so it being bribery is kind of impossible, although I see where you're coming from. It's not a bribery thing for me anyway. And even if it were bribery, when it comes to my life, if I have to bribe someone to defend it, then that's what I'd do. I like living.

sidepipe87 wrote:

Jenni wrote:

sidepipe87 wrote:
FUCK DA POLICE!

Hmmm - why not?

hmmmm - i guess that guy wasn't expecting to find the love of his life with that....

Passt wrote:

bombtrack07 wrote:

Passt wrote:Tough question. There are a lot of different factors to take into consideration. Does the officer automatically expect professional courtesy and act like a tool because of this?

Most everyone who isn't an officer will make the point that police should be held to the same standard as they hold the public to. With that said, you have no clue how that officer chooses to use his discretion with civilians he deals with. Some officers are very lenient and informative and nice, others write a ticket for each and every stop, no matter what the reason for the stop is. It simply just depends.

If I pull over an officer, I let them go. It's a camaraderie thing. If I'm getting shot at, stabbed, beat up, they will have my back, and vice versa. That's just me. I also don't drive like an asshole becase I think I can get away with it.

I respect police officers because their job is inherently more dangerous than most peoples and they put up with shit that normal folks like me dont have to but the part in bold sounds more like bribery than camaraderie to me.

99% of the time they're not pulled over by people they actually work with, so it being bribery is kind of impossible, although I see where you're coming from. It's not a bribery thing for me anyway. And even if it were bribery, when it comes to my life, if I have to bribe someone to defend it, then that's what I'd do. I like living.

living > not living

Jenni wrote:

sidepipe87 wrote:

Jenni wrote:Hmmm - why not?

hmmmm - i guess that guy wasn't expecting to find the love of his life with that....

LOL! Jenni, I think you're getting a bit lost in translation here. The phrase "Fuck the Police" does not mean "have sex with the police" it means more means "Fuck you Police".