Dodge/Chrysler News

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:20 pm

Not to mention the fact that fullsize RWD Dodge vehicles also blow up transmissions left and right.

I say they can't make a good trans.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:22 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:
Forest Green 2k wrote:
TheRandom1 wrote:They can't make a FWD trans in a Neon that won't blow, how can they expect to do so in a full sized truck?
I disagree. I think the transmissions were pretty much the only things that didn't suck on Neons and were above average for an economy vehicle.
How many people here have blown up a transmission on a Neon? Their ATX sucked and had a poorly designed cooler that commonly broke (breaks?) and causes the trans to go bad. It's a fact and a well known issue.

Def a radiator issue.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:23 pm

See my previous post. Dodge has had transmission issues for at least 20 years now.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:25 pm

I will say that the ones mated to the 4.7l in the Jeep and Dakota aren't exactly bulletproof, while not junk.

Hear dad talking about how junk the transmissions in all our old minivans alot though.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sun May 22, 2011 4:46 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:See my previous post. Dodge has had transmission issues for at least 20 years now.

I'd say at least as far back as 1978.

Dad had a 1978 Chrysler New Yorker... a massive boat of a vehicle with "Lean Burn" on a 400 cubic inch engine and front seats that I swear looked and felt like Laz-Y-Boy recliners.

The "Lean Burn" was the first attempt at electronic engine controls and was not quite ready for prime time. You'd occasionally find yourself stranded with the engine flatly refusing to start on the first couple of attempts. If you waited for 15 minutes it would fire right up. I used to call it "Diabolical Burn".

Ah yes, the transmission issues... ya... I have some memories of having the vehicle full of people while attempting to get up a small hill. We made it... barely. Dealership had to pull and overhaul the transmission... at our expense.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun May 22, 2011 11:48 pm

My family has owned Chryslers with Kokomo automatics going back to our 1963 Newport sedan with the pushbuttons on the dash. The only problem that I can remember was the ATX in my mother's Intrepid going out in Kentucky while on a trip to Florida during the winter of 2004. And my dad had a 1976 New Yorker Brougham coupe (no Lean Burn though)- never any troubles with it, even when I had it going about 100 MPH a few times.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:33 am

TheRandom1 wrote:See my previous post. Dodge has had transmission issues for at least 20 years now.

Hows the trans on your blazer doing??

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:41 am

Haganracing wrote:
TheRandom1 wrote:See my previous post. Dodge has had transmission issues for at least 20 years now.
Hows the trans on your blazer doing??

My Ram has 130,000 miles on its orig trani and it shifts great....
I've blown up a couple of FWD atx's in my time but that was due to neutral drops...

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:26 am

Midnight_Rider wrote:My family has owned Chryslers with Kokomo automatics going back to our 1963 Newport sedan with the pushbuttons on the dash.

Ah ya... the push button transmission.

I remember my uncle's 1964 Dodge Slant 6 with the push button transmission on the left side of the steering wheel in the dash. It had a lever you pulled down to engage PARK.

I always thought that was such a cool car. He was an electrician and used it like a truck having removed the back seat. You never knew would kind of stuff would be back there from one week to the next.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:23 am

Haganracing wrote:
TheRandom1 wrote:See my previous post. Dodge has had transmission issues for at least 20 years now.
Hows the trans on your blazer doing??

For a truck/trans that was used for 130K miles to haul a trailer full of drywall shit and never taken care of... not too bad. (my mechanic showed me the trans pan when he put it on the rack, no marks on the bolts, meaning the pan had likely never been dropped)

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:59 am

My dad's 2004 Dodge Dakota has over 200k on it.. All original, nothing has been replaced.

It sees a trailer behind it almost every weekend since we bought it in 2005 pulling it from Maryland to NY, PA, CT, OH, VA, NC

Never had ANY issues with the transmission at all. So if Dodge has "trans problems", I sure as hell haven't seen it.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:00 am

Ever hear of the exception that proves the rule, Chris?

Seriously, why is this such a big deal to you guys? It's a known fact that Dodge vehicles have transmission issues, google it.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:04 am

My non-modifying friends Escort saw 3 different transmissions in it's life just driving normal. I hate Ford, lol.

I was in it the 2nd time it shit the bed, sounded like absolute DEATH! Wost metal clunking and grinding sounds ever, lol.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:08 am

Alright, here are a few examples.

How many SRT-4s have had issues with their transmission? It's a manual and the synchros go bad. Driver error? Possibly, but I know people who don't race them that have had issues.

The Rams are well known to blow their transmissions up.

The regular Neon ATX cooler goes bad and blows up the trans. Well known around here, there's even threads about it.

Dodge minivan lineups have been plagued for years with trans issues.

I never said Chevy makes a good trans or that it's any better than anything else. However, the fact that you guys seem to think Dodge vehicles do not have transmission issues is ludicrous and ill informed. Do ten minutes worth of research and you will see that what I am saying is true... Dodge vehicles eat transmissions for breakfast.

All of that being said... none of this is news so why are we still talking about it?

smallblockfreak · Post by **smallblockfreak** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:44 am

Well dodge doesn't make srt trans and you can't blame the trans in a neon because if you put antifreeze in any they will die.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:55 am

Dodge didn't choose which trans to go with in the SRT-4? They are responsible for the decision on whichever part is put into their car when it rolls off the assembly line, so you can absolutely blame them for it.

As for the ATX Neon trans cooler issue, same thing. They chose that design and it failed miserably. Therefore, because of a bad design the trans ended up failing.

Sooo... yeah, still holds up with Dodge vehicles have trans issues.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:02 pm

My brother's Ram and their company's work truck, a Dakota with almost 300k on it has never had a transmission issue. Heads warped due to cooling issues, but never trans.

And I sort of disagree about neon trans being bad. As mentioned, the transmission is not to blame. It is the cooler. Replace it with one that works better and the transmission will hold up just fine.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:05 pm

OK, you guys are all right and I'm wrong. Dodge makes spiffy transmissions and I'm spouting bullshit out of my ass because I hate Dodge now that I drive a Chevy.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:48 pm

Quit being a mad hatin' parrot

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:51 pm

Learn what you're talking about before claiming I'm wrong, and I won't have to be this way.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:27 pm

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I didn't say you are wrong, but I'm not saying you are right.

Every car make has their "issues" but like I said, I haven't heard of anyone who had issues with their dodge vehicles (those that aren't modified, because once they are modified you really can't blame the car company for your aftermarket parts/install... or I would have a LONG list of things to blame them on in my neon alone lol).

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:05 pm

It depends on the modification too, don't forget. Sure if you add a turbo to an ATX and blow the trans, you helped a lot.

But someone like me for example. My trans went out at 67K (61K of that was me) without any neutral drops, or burnout attempts. I went to the track one time. I had no power adders or anything like that. Trans blew.

And not saying I'm right is where you are wrong. If you did any research at all (as I said, a simple google search) you'll find that even though the 4 or 5 of you posting against me here have had good luck, Dodge vehicles in general, have shitty luck with transmissions.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:12 pm

In my immediate family, we have owned and driven more than 50 Mopar vehicles (probably close to 75). Zero transmission failures. This is since about 1980 and vehicles I have personal knowledge of. The family has been driving Mopar since 1935. Cars, trucks, minivans, jeeps, everything.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:26 pm

Congratulations. Still doesn't mean I'm wrong.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:53 pm

Sean relax. It's common knowledge that Dodge has plenty of trans problems. For every one you post or read about, there are plenty others still trucking along just fine with no issues, both on here and elsewhere. You gotta learn to let shit go.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:01 pm

I have no problem letting things go. However people telling me I'm wrong just because they or someone they know hasn't had the problem that millions of people have had irks me.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:18 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Congratulations. Still doesn't mean I'm wrong.

lol, didn't say you were! Just wanted to post more "statistics".

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:39 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:I have no problem letting things go. However people telling me I'm wrong just because they or someone they know hasn't had the problem that millions of people have had irks me.

That works both ways though Sean. You aren't right, and neither is anyone else.

Dodge may have more problems with their transmissions than other brands, but they are not absolute garbage. Just like anything else, there are many people that have had good luck, and many that have had bad.

Doesn't make you right in saying they are complete trash, doesn't make anyone else right in saying theirs lasted 984264564576 miles.

smallblockfreak · Post by **smallblockfreak** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:43 pm

Where this thread has gone

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:18 pm

heydockyle wrote:
TheRandom1 wrote:I have no problem letting things go. However people telling me I'm wrong just because they or someone they know hasn't had the problem that millions of people have had irks me.
That works both ways though Sean. You aren't right, and neither is anyone else.

Dodge may have more problems with their transmissions than other brands, but they are not absolute garbage. Just like anything else, there are many people that have had good luck, and many that have had bad.

Doesn't make you right in saying they are complete trash, doesn't make anyone else right in saying theirs lasted 984264564576 miles.

I just read my posts and I don't see it... where did I say anything about them being complete trash? I've stated that Dodge vehicles have shitloads of transmissions issues, and I don't think they can make a good one based on those issues.