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Post by ejclide » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:43 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote:Tipton plant a go!
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20 ... t-official
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Post by theColonel » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:52 pm

How far is Kokomo and/or Tipton from Indianapolis ?
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Post by FAC3L3SS » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

theColonel wrote:How far is Kokomo and/or Tipton from Indianapolis ?
Don't encourage him! I don't think it'd be worth the jobs he's got now to go work at that plant. He'd be supremely disappointed. . . and I don't mean with pay.

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Post by Midnight_Rider » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:44 am

theColonel wrote:How far is Kokomo and/or Tipton from Indianapolis ?
Indianapolis (at Marion Co. line) to Kokomo Transmission plant is 37.8 miles and 38 minutes. Indianapolis (at Marion Co. line) to Tipton plant is 25.2 miles and 25 minutes. Tipton plant to Kokomo Transmission Plant is 12.7 miles and 12 minutes.
FAC3L3SS wrote:[Don't encourage him! I don't think it'd be worth the jobs he's got now to go work at that plant. He'd be supremely disappointed. . . and I don't mean with pay.
And you're basing this on what? I had a chance to start at Kokomo Casting at the end of the 1970's and, if I hadn't been so :tardbang: at the time (teenagers know everything :roll: ), I would have had 35 years of UAW wages and would soon be eligible for a nice retirement! :banghead:
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Thu May 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Time to put the government loan nonsense to rest- permanently.
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20 ... ent-claims
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Post by theColonel » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:25 pm

Fiat 500L Imported from Serbia

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Post by r/tguy02 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:16 am

just looks like a large fiat 500, kinda like what mini did with the cooper.
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:08 pm

Fiat's replica of the Mini Clubman. Ho-hum. And imported as well... another ho-hum. :roll:
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Post by jrumann59 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:43 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote:Time to put the government loan nonsense to rest- permanently.
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20 ... ent-claims
Tesla and Chrysler are both right to a degree. Both GM and Chrysler used another gov't loan to pay off the previous one. IIRC its part of the backroom deal so that Cerberus could sell to Fiat.
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Post by theColonel » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:34 pm

jrumann59 wrote:[esla and Chrysler are both right to a degree. Both GM and Chrysler used another gov't loan to pay off the previous one. IIRC it's part of the backroom deal so that Cerberus could sell to Fiat.
Cerberus didn't receive any money from Fiat. Cerberus "gave" their ownership to the Government. The government gave partial ownership to the UAW to fund pension
& health care liabilities, and partial ownership to Fiat for "the valuable small car technology".

http://www.boston.com/cars/news/article ... d/?camp=pm

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Post by jrumann59 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:17 pm

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"The government’s bailout of "Chrysler" actually involved government infusions totaling more than $12 billion to three companies. One was the automaker prior to its bankruptcy reorganization, the old Chrysler. One was the reorganized company, Chrysler Group. And the third was the company that provided consumer auto loans, Chrysler Financial Services.

Just two of the three have satisfied their government obligations. But the film's "repaid" rhetoric reflects solely the Chrysler Group — the new Chrysler. What’s the larger story?

• Since Chrysler Group LLC was formed in June 2009, it has repaid its U.S. loans of $5.1 billion "in full, with interest, six years early," according to a fact-sheet from Katie Merx, financial communications manager for the reorganized company. (The Treasury also says so.) Another chunk of money bought the government a small ownership stake in the new company, but that’s already been bought by Fiat. So, the Chrysler Group, the entity that arose out of the bankruptcy, has repaid its loans and has shed government ownership.

• Chrysler Financial Services, now TD Auto Finance, has paid off its loan of $1.5 billion — and taxpayers made $22 million on the deal, according to the Treasury Department and ProPublica.

• But the amount taxpayers loaned to Chrysler before it filed for bankruptcy protection in 2009 — the entity now dubbed "Old Carco" — was chalked up as a loss by the federal government. That’s a $1.3 billion loan that will never be repaid. (The old company is still grinding through liquidation, but the government doesn’t expect to collect any more.)

So, new Chrysler has "repaid its loans," as has Chrysler Financial Services. But old Chrysler was lent $1.3 billion that won’t be repaid. Even so, taxpayers have fared better than most folks thought — a government official suggested in 2009 that $7 billion might be lost.

Instead, most taxpayer money has been restored, and the new company says it has added more than 9,000 jobs."
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:47 am

And I shudder to think about what would have happened to our economy and the number of jobs that would have been lost if the loans hadn't happened. A domino effect for sure. :shock: Any remaining losses to us taxpayers can be blamed solely on Daimler and Cerberus for their successful murder of Chrysler- "Old Carco" wouldn't exist if it weren't for those two. :cussing:
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Post by theColonel » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:53 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote: Any remaining losses to us taxpayers can be blamed solely on Daimler and Cerberus for their successful murder of Chrysler :cussing:
:withstupid: "Old CarCo" could have been everything, in what used to be Chrysler. "Vulture Capital" companies (like Cerberus) rarely create or save jobs.
Think of Sergio as being like Lee Iacocca. :thumbup:
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:49 am

theColonel wrote:Think of Sergio as being like Lee Iacocca. :thumbup:
This. Thank God we got another "car guy" to watch over Chrysler.
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Post by theColonel » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:34 pm

There's rumors of a new Chrysler 300 Eco, it'll have grill shutters, kevlar belted low roll resistant tires, and the 1.4 liter turbo engine.
It should get 40 mpg, to help with CAFE requirements. Estimated 0-60 time is 2 minutes
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Post by jonnymopar » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:03 pm

theColonel wrote:...and the 1.4 liter turbo engine.
theColonel wrote:Estimated 0-60 time is 2 minutes
Yep, that sounds about right. Hopefully they've got the drive-by-wire mapping figured out by then.
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Post by theColonel » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Chrysler Confirms New 200 Sedan for January 2014

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Post by Midnight_Rider » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:46 pm

Yay, this means another Daimler leftover finally biting the dust. :D
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Post by theColonel » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:28 am

Midnight_Rider wrote:Yay, this means another Daimler leftover finally biting the dust. :D
My guess is that eventually all DCX vehicles will be replaced by Fiat platforms/parts to achieve economies of scale.
Chrysler as we knew it, is dead & gone.
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:08 am

theColonel wrote:Chrysler as we knew it, is dead & gone.
Chrysler Group is alive and very well. DCX is dead and buried, thank God.
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Post by theColonel » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:57 pm

Fiat will buy the rest of Chrysler for $4.35 billion

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Post by Midnight_Rider » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:43 pm

Yup. Pretty good for what was a few years ago the remainder of DCX that was bankrupt. Good thing that the federal government "bailed out" Chrysler. :lol:
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:33 pm

A 0.48 overdrive with a 3.73 final drive ratio?

OTGR = 1.79

Compared to the 3.55/.74 T350's 2.50
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occasional demons wrote:A 0.48 overdrive with a 3.73 final drive ratio?

OTGR = 1.79

Compared to the 3.55/.74 T350's 2.50
Don't expect much acceleration in 9th gear :rofl:
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:23 am

New 200 looks fantastic! Looks like Dart Fusion mix

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Post by Midnight_Rider » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:11 pm

I was thinking a Dart on steroids with a Chrysler winged logo on the front clip. Definitely an improvement on the outgoing Daimler-designed Sebring/200. :thumbup:
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Post by theColonel » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:55 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote: ... Definitely an improvement on the outgoing Daimler - designed Sebring/200. :thumbup:
:withstupid: ... I need to trade my 2009 (Cerberus) Dodge Avenger for a Fiat/Chrysler 2015 Pentastar V6 AWD 200S ... :D
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:10 am

Not anything new...


Fiat completes Chrysler takeover, company is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Fiat
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A deal five years in the making

Following an announcement earlier this month, Fiat has acquired the remaining stake of Chrysler Group LLC.
Coming nearly five year after an alliance was struck, the acquisition gives Fiat the remaining 41.4616% of Chrysler they previously didn't own. As a result of the deal, Chrysler is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Fiat.
Neither company had much to say about the deal, but Fiat and Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has previously said “In the life of every major organization and its people, there are defining moments that go down in the history books. For Fiat and Chrysler, the agreement just reached with the VEBA is clearly one of those moments." He added, "The unified ownership structure will now allow us to fully execute our vision of creating a global automaker that is truly unique in terms of mix of experience, perspective and know-how, a solid and open organization that will ensure all employees a challenging and rewarding environment.”

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