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JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:39 pm

I think you've already settled on the vehicle you want.

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:45 pm

I am going to run the Mitsu by the wife, but unless it's amazing the Equinox is going to win. We were very happy with the test drive.

The GM employee discount from her Grandmother doesn't hurt either, unless they canned that but we will have to check on that tomorrow.

bone-yard-racing · Post by **bone-yard-racing** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:10 am

My dealership is about 5 exits up from the hotel maybe 10min further north.

GM employee discount is still around it gets you the "prefered price" and thats about all you are going to see off an equinox/terrain

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:09 am

racer12306 wrote: Chevy Equinox: Great smooth ride, good advertised fuel economy (32mpg with the 2.4L 4 cyl). Little disappointed that the LS trim only has a few color options.

Mazda CX-7: ok ride, the Equinox is better. More road noise than the Equinox.

Honda CR-V: nice ride, quiet. very nice vehicle.

Dodge Journey: good ride, reasonable power from the 2.4. I was concerned about power since it's the same engine as the Caliber which is lacking, however I feel it's the CVT sucking up extra power because it feels much better with a 4 speed behind it. Very disappointed with the rear hatch opening. It's only slightly bigger than the Caliber.

For what it is worth... both the Equinox and CRV are Consumer Reports recommended vehicles.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:33 pm

Paul56 wrote:For what it is worth... both the Equinox and CRV are Consumer Reports recommended vehicles.

Working retail makes me hate Consumer Reports. Nothing like people blindly following what a magazine says even though none of the models are carried in the stores by the time the magazine is published. "But Comsumer Reports says it's the best! Why don't you carry it?!"

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:09 am

Paul56 wrote:For what it is worth... both the Equinox and CRV are Consumer Reports recommended vehicles.

Off-topic but since Consumer Reports has had an obvious anti-Chrysler bias for decades, I hesitate to go by any of their recommendations.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:47 am

I'd pick the CR-V over the Equinox all day.

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:52 am

we are pretty happy with our cx7.. only thing that i don't like is 20mpg but we got the turbo awd model so we asked for it lol

It handles well and drives tight...

CRV and RAV4 are boring.

GM = poor quality

Ford escape seems like a very nice choice but looks too boxy for me.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:29 pm

Forest Green 2k wrote:I'd pick the CR-V over the Equinox all day.

Considering their price points and the apparant value, the Equinox is the better choice for us.

neonpla wrote:we are pretty happy with our cx7.. only thing that i don't like is 20mpg but we got the turbo awd model so we asked for it lol

It handles well and drives tight...

CRV and RAV4 are boring.

GM = poor quality

Ford escape seems like a very nice choice but looks too boxy for me.

I wasn't interested in having a turbo daily driver, partially for the MPG but also a little worried about reliability and it's just not needed. The CX7 wasn't even an option until I learned it came with the n/a 2.5.

I agree that the CRV is kind of boring. I think it was probably because of the trim level, but in the end it's a mid size crossover/SUV so I wouldn't expect a lot from it.

What makes you say GM is poor quality? We would get the ecotec engine which has a very strong track record and GM hasn't had any major transmission issues in it's past.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:02 pm

In the small(er) SUV market, there aren't any domestics that make the cut in terms of quality vs price IMO. It definetly seems like it's dominated by the imports. There's like a million Rav4's around here. The major problem I have with GM is that one of their most wide spread issues I've seen is very early rust formation.

theColonel · Post by **theColonel** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:34 pm

A fellow at the golf course has had an Equinox for almost a year and has been very satisfied with it.

Good luck in adapting to a whole new set of priorities

Dylan-00Blue · Post by **Dylan-00Blue** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:14 pm

nissan rogue/murano?

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:12 pm

racer12306 wrote:
Forest Green 2k wrote:I'd pick the CR-V over the Equinox all day.
Considering their price points and the apparant value, the Equinox is the better choice for us.

In terms of trade-in value the CRV will retain more value over the years than the Equinox will.

BTW, the Equinox and the GMC Terrain are essentially the same vehicle with a different shell.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:50 pm

Forest Green 2k wrote:There's like a million Rav4's around here. The major problem I have with GM is that one of their most wide spread issues I've seen is very early rust formation.

After driving through Jamestown, Buffalo and Rochester today I am reminded of the hell that Western New York unleashes on cars. There were cars that were less than 10 years old with more rust than my 26 year old Monte had. I don't think it's the car type, it's more the area for you.

Dylan-00Blue wrote:nissan rogue/murano?

The Murano is way too much money.

We looked at the Rogue but never got to measure it for cargo space. Since Honda is comparing the CR-V to it, I'm going to assume that it is smaller. We probably will try to check it out, however seeing as the Equinox has more cargo room it will probably get trumped.

Paul56 wrote:
racer12306 wrote:
Forest Green 2k wrote:I'd pick the CR-V over the Equinox all day.
Considering their price points and the apparant value, the Equinox is the better choice for us.
In terms of trade-in value the CRV will retain more value over the years than the Equinox will.

BTW, the Equinox and the GMC Terrain are essentially the same vehicle with a different shell.

In the end I'm planning on never trading this car in. It will be run until the wheels fall off so any car would have shit trade in at that point

I know the Equinox and the Terrain are the same. There really isn't a difference for me other than cost. The Terrain does look a little better in my mind, but money is important.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:07 pm

As it happens...

I have a new 2011 Honda CRV for the evening and tomorrow while my Fit is being detailed and accessorized.

Initial impressions...

-roomy... for me alone anyways
-well finished
-peppy
-good ride
-good visibility
-upright commanding driving position
-comfortable seats

Overall I like the vehicle and would buy one.

This one has an MSRP of $24,750.

jdusty914 · Post by **jdusty914** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:52 pm

I just got my wife a 2011 Scion xB. We both love it and it was cheaper than anything else (about 18k) with more room to boot. Just an idea. It has some get up and go for sure.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:00 pm

That's a good point Frank. Josh's box had plenty of backseat room. Not sure how much room in the far back though.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:50 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:That's a good point Frank. Josh's box had plenty of backseat room. Not sure how much room in the far back though.

Get a roof rack and put the strollers on top.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:48 pm

TheRandom1 wrote: Josh's box had plenty of backseat room.

Winter roads, salt spray, and things on the outside of the car, not so good.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:55 am

jdusty914 wrote:I just got my wife a 2011 Scion xB. We both love it and it was cheaper than anything else (about 18k) with more room to boot. Just an idea. It has some get up and go for sure.

It does look like the new gens have more room, but probably not twin stroller kind of room.

And to add to it, my wife hates xBs.

TheRandom1 wrote:That's a good point Frank. Josh's box had plenty of backseat room. Not sure how much room in the far back though.

Josh's box always has plenty of room.

occasional demons wrote:Winter roads, salt spray, and things on the outside of the car, not so good.

This.

jdusty914 · Post by **jdusty914** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:55 pm

I bet twin strollers could fit in it. We have loaded it to the roof with stuff, and have not had any problems. If she hates them then I guess that is the end of that. Oh well. Good luck on finding a newer car for her.

nabster33 · Post by **nabster33** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:00 pm

I would never buy a gm product...my aunt had an equinox and it was a nightmare.. The rav4 is nice i reccomend the kia sportage. Its won more awards in the last 4 months than anything in its class. I'm thinking about buying the sx model myself..Its has a 2.0turbo with awd. Check it out its worth a shot

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:24 pm

Dodge Durango?

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:29 pm

Too expensive.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:53 pm

jdusty914 wrote:I bet twin strollers could fit in it. We have loaded it to the roof with stuff, and have not had any problems. If she hates them then I guess that is the end of that. Oh well. Good luck on finding a newer car for her.

The xB only has 11.6 cu ft of space in the back. That's less than our Caliber is so it would be a downgrade in that respect.

nabster33 wrote:I would never buy a gm product...my aunt had an equinox and it was a nightmare.. The rav4 is nice i reccomend the kia sportage. Its won more awards in the last 4 months than anything in its class. I'm thinking about buying the sx model myself..Its has a 2.0turbo with awd. Check it out its worth a shot

Which Equinox?

They underwent a major redesign for the 2010MY so it's nothing like the old ones.

A problem with the Sportage is space. There is a significant difference in the Equinox and the Sportage in cargo volume.

I did consider the Santa Fe, but I don't think I can bring myself to buy a Korean car. I know they've come light years from when they first were brought to the states, but I just don't think I can do it.

esfan wrote:Dodge Durango?

TheRandom1 wrote:Too expensive.

While I love the new design, it's way too expensive. Plus it's a RWD/AWD platform and I'd rather stay away from that. We are looking at FWD platforms.

We are going to drive an Escape tomorrow and hopefully an Outlander.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:25 pm

Nissan Juke Yo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B55IcZ-wpg
Boost.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:26 pm

Those are tiny.

And boost = bad.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:20 pm

racer12306 wrote: I did consider the Santa Fe, but I don't think I can bring myself to buy a Korean car. I know they've come light years from when they first were brought to the states, but I just don't think I can do it.

I know how you feel.

Before deciding on the Fit I went to Hyundai and had a serious look at the 2011 Elantra.

Deal breaker for me is that Hyundai will not cover the warranty for a US purchased vehicle in Canada.... where Honda will.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:25 pm

You're incorrect Frank

Boost = Sex.

Chris.augusta · Post by **Chris.augusta** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:42 am

I say cx7. My roommate has a 2010 Mazda 3 with a 2.5. Great engine, amazing handing, and it's expected to be the most reliable car on the road and best resale value. He gets 28 miles with both city and highway. Ssoo cx7 all the way