Wtf? Dodge built a RWD Neon.

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Wtf? Dodge built a RWD Neon.

Post by Forest Green 2k » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:22 pm

The Dodge Venom was a rear wheel drive concept car built by the Dodge Corporation in 1995, utilizing the Cab forward (car) design structure. It used the Dodge Neon as a base and featured a V6 engine capable of producing 260 horsepower (190 kW). It was capable of 0-60 in 5.2 seconds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Venom
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Post by TheRandom1 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:26 pm

Article says it "used the Neon as a base" but it looks nothing like a Neon, is RWD unlike a Neon, and has a motor that was never offered in a Neon.

No, Dodge never built a RWD Neon, sorry.
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:55 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Article says it "used the Neon as a base" but it looks nothing like a Neon, is RWD unlike a Neon, and has a motor that was never offered in a Neon.

No, Dodge never built a RWD Neon, sorry.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:57 pm

Nope, I just don't consider it to have any Neon-like qualities.
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Post by Neon4Life » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:11 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Nope, I just don't consider it to have any Neon-like qualities.
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Post by acr4 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:27 pm

looks like a stealth body with the viper inspired bumper
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:30 pm

acr4 wrote:looks like a stealth body with the viper inspired bumper
Yeah it def kinda looks like a Stealth.
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Post by Mat00ES » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:10 pm

Could be a neon door handle
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:38 pm

Mat00ES wrote:Could be a neon door handle
Has something more important, it's built on a Neon platform. I wonder if they used pre-existing drivetrain parts to make it RWD or if they were prototypes. If we can learn more about this it could make a RWD swap more realistic.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:20 am

I think you're dreaming.

The FWD drivetrain is more suited for an AWD setup since the trans has outputs on both sides. You'd have to swap that.

Then there's the motor which has mounts in MUCH different spots than what an RWD motor has, so you couldn't use that.

You would have to do lots of fab no matter what you do for a motor/trans, plus you'd STILL have to modify the floorboards/crossmembers/etc to make it fit. This is not your key, never has been the key, never will be the key.

Besides... "based on the Neon platform" means nothing. Ever watch a movie that's "based on a real story"? They take one small part of the story, make something completely different out of it. Exactly what seems to have been done here.

Besides the word "neon" this thread contains no neon related material at all. You'd do well to stop trying to claim it does.
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Post by FAC3L3SS » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:43 am

Sean's right. This isn't the Neon platform, it was BASED on the platform. Meaning they started with that, then fucked it all up.

Prototype, meaning they actually produced maybe . . . one? There are 0 parts out there to make a RWD swap.
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Post by caustic neon » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:38 am

FAC3L3SS wrote: There are 0 parts out there to make a RWD swap.

not quite true, there is a lot of fab work involved as Random said (motor mounts, drive shaft, correct axles) but there is a tranny that will bolt right up to our motors, its a jeep tranny if i remember correctly
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:39 am

I believe the context there was that there aren't parts out there to do it WITHOUT FAB WORK required.
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Post by caustic neon » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:42 am

edited but i also did say "a lot of fab work involved" and he said "0 parts" so i listed the 1 part at would work without any fab at all. lol
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:43 am

It'll bolt to the engine... there aren't any crossmembers to hold it in place, etc. Therefore, that trans won't work without fab work requited... placing it in the 0 parts that would work without fab work.
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:53 am

TheRandom1 wrote:It'll bolt to the engine... there aren't any crossmembers to hold it in place, etc. Therefore, that trans won't work without fab work requited... placing it in the 0 parts that would work without fab work.
Of course fab work would be required... Is there a vehicle out there that can be changed to RWD by just simply bolting in new parts? Because I don't know of any.
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All I wonder is if the RWD components were already being produced by DX or if it was all prototype but something tells me not all of it was.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:01 am

Are you stupid or something? Serious question.
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:29 am

TheRandom1 wrote:Are you stupid or something? Serious question.
I'm serious about wanting to know which car can be swapped to RWD by simply bolting in different parts without any fab work.

You're soooo mad. :lol:
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Post by gtxtreme19 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:46 am

Yeah your idea wont work, everything on that car is prototype. Its at autorama in detroit every year, its pretty slick but good luck ever getting your hands on it.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:54 am

Forest Green 2k wrote:
TheRandom1 wrote:Are you stupid or something? Serious question.
I'm serious about wanting to know which car can be swapped to RWD by simply bolting in different parts without any fab work.

You're soooo mad. :lol:
Mad? No. Frustrated by your continued idiocy? Yes.

No, you cannot use any parts from a prototype car for a RWD swap. You'd be better off grabbing yourself a JY motor and trans and fabbing up your own parts, since that's what you'll have to do.
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Post by UriahRR » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:03 pm

Random Idiot belongs on SRTForums. Or wherever the fuck parrots hang out.



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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:05 pm

Yeah Uriah... I'm a douchebag because I'm telling him that this car he claims is a Neon won't help him. Shut the fuck up you stupid assclown, and try fucking reading what we're saying.
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Post by UriahRR » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:15 pm

Yup. You are a douchebag. We all know it. You think you're god behind a keyboard or something when you're just a dress-wearing insecure little person that has to insult others to feel like a man.

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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:24 pm

Meh, what the fuck ever douchebag.
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Post by MoxHair » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:39 pm

UriahRR wrote:Random Idiot belongs on SRTForums. Or wherever the fuck parrots hang out.



Key to life green neon guy: Don't listen to the small-minded people. ANYTHING is possible with enough motivation and money. Keep dreaming, it will keep you happy/employed/alive when others can't think outside the box.
Sean isn't saying a RWD Neon isn't possible. He's saying that looking at this concept vehicle for parts is not the way to go about it. Which is correct.

Sean is small-minded and can't think outside the box because his point is that some one-off concept vehicle won't allow you to bolt on RWD?
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:48 pm

Don't bother, Travis. Uriah is a stupid shit stirring assclown. Not worth arguing with.
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Post by Forest Green 2k » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:03 pm

MoxHair wrote:
UriahRR wrote:Random Idiot belongs on SRTForums. Or wherever the fuck parrots hang out.



Key to life green neon guy: Don't listen to the small-minded people. ANYTHING is possible with enough motivation and money. Keep dreaming, it will keep you happy/employed/alive when others can't think outside the box.
Sean isn't saying a RWD Neon isn't possible. He's saying that looking at this concept vehicle for parts is not the way to go about it. Which is correct.
If they were mass produced parts from the bin it could shed some light into the possibility is all I said. Random needs to relax with all this swearing and name calling out no where.

And I'm still waiting for the car that can be RWD swapped with no fab work involved you seem to believe in.
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Post by MoxHair » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:12 pm

Forest Green 2k wrote:If they were mass produced parts from the bin it could shed some light into the possibility is all I said
Most concept vehicles do not have mass produced parts, especially one that never went further than just a "Look what we can do" auto show vehicle.
Forest Green 2k wrote:And I'm still waiting for the car that can be RWD swapped with no fab work involved you seem to believe in.
I believe in? I don't believe in any sort of thing.
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Post by JeffM » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:25 pm

Forest Green 2k wrote:And I'm still waiting for the car that can be RWD swapped with no fab work involved you seem to believe in.
You could convert my Audi to RWD just by taking out the front axles.

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