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Post by gtxtreme19 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:02 pm

I'm not a complete "gun totin redneck" but I got this email from ruger this morning, I figured I would share since I know a few of you like your guns.

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Post by INVUJerry » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:39 pm

MD is trying to pass legislation to put huge restrictions on "assault rifles". I'm not a huge gun totin redneck, never been hunting, but I like shooting targets, clay pigeons, etc. I would like a CCW for when I go into the city. I know 1/3 of the people there are carrying anyway, would just like to do it legally.

"A ban on the transport, sale, purchase, transfer or possession of commonly owned semi-automatic centerfire rifles that have a detachable magazine and one additional characteristic – such as a pistol grip, telescoping stock, flash suppressor, threaded barrel etc. under the political misnomer “assault weapons.” ALL currently owned regulated firearms ( so-called "assault rifles") must be registered with the Maryland State Police before November 1, 2013, and persons moving into Maryland must register all regulated firearms (including handguns) within thirty days of residency."

So, basically, if this law gets passed, if my father passes away, we would have to turn a few of his weapons in, they would not be able to be transferred to me.
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Post by Haganracing » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:10 am

Screw Maryland. Recently bought a 60rnd ar-15 mag

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Post by r/tguy02 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:50 am

i know the laws they are proposing are stupid but there are other weapons that dont fit under those guidlines, like my SKS for instance which has more firepower than an AR anyway... makes total sense :tardbang:
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Post by gtxtreme19 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:38 am

I hunt a little bit, not enough to accommodate the amount of guns and ammo I have (I could arm a small militia) but I love shooting trap. Some of these laws are just ridiculous though
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Post by Adam G » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:09 pm

sks was gone that was named outright under one ban I saw that....granted I dont have any ar's or anything like that i want one but dont have money to blow.....anybody knows me I have like 7 different hunting rifles and im always buying more
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Post by r/tguy02 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:12 pm

adamwhich one was that? only one i'm familiar with is the "assault weapon" ban
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Post by INVUJerry » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:35 am

They aren't going to take them, but make it impossible to buy/sell them, or transfer them to a family member once you pass away.
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Post by fixitmattman » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:35 pm

Pretty sure there will be grandfather rights to existing fire-arms and to be able to pass down through family. That's how they do it in Canada with pre-existing restricted/prohibited weapons. They pretty much have to stay in the family now.
r/tguy02 wrote:i know the laws they are proposing are stupid but there are other weapons that dont fit under those guidlines, like my SKS for instance which has more firepower than an AR anyway... makes total sense :tardbang:
All about appearances, AR's look scary even though you can get more firepower in a 'standard' or 'less scary looking' gun.
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Post by ejclide » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:51 pm

I'm a little more concerned with what they're proposing in The People's Republic of California.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/0 ... 42204.html

I'm very bothered by all of the people who either think "semi-automatic" weapons should be banned, or that "assault weapons" are any more lethal than hunting rifles. The Ruger Mini-14 is in Feinstein's exempt list. It is NO different than an AR-15 except for appearance. But people are too fixated on "military style". General McCrystal went on TV talking about the power of AR-15s, and how they wreak havoc on the human body, yet all evidence is a complete contradiction to this. Soldiers overseas are complaining all the time about the lack of power in the 5.56 NATO round, and that it is ineffective. I have it on good authority that the round was not designed to kill, but rather to wound and remove additional people from the battlefield to evacuate wounded. Most states don't allow hunting dear with the round because it's inhumane. After all, the .223 is commonly considered a "Varmint" round. So how is it this mythical uber bullet that is just so dangerous we shouldn't have it?

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Post by INVUJerry » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:14 am

fixitmattman wrote:Pretty sure there will be grandfather rights to existing fire-arms and to be able to pass down through family. That's how they do it in Canada with pre-existing restricted/prohibited weapons. They pretty much have to stay in the family now.
r/tguy02 wrote:i know the laws they are proposing are stupid but there are other weapons that dont fit under those guidlines, like my SKS for instance which has more firepower than an AR anyway... makes total sense :tardbang:
All about appearances, AR's look scary even though you can get more firepower in a 'standard' or 'less scary looking' gun.
The MD law excludes grandfathering.
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Post by theColonel » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:46 am

gtxtreme19 wrote:I'm not a complete "gun totin redneck" but I got this email from ruger this morning, I figured I would share since I know a few of you like your guns.

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/
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Post by Alex Kurdian » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:48 pm

Hey Guys
I cant speak for you guys as guns are banned big time here in AUST...but isn't your government trying to disarm you as well...for the reason I believe if the shit ever hits the fan there you guys wont be able to fight back?

Personally if we were allowed to I would have an god damn arsenal just in case the shit ever hit the fan...but for now all I have a a crow bar! :roll:
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Post by goderick » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:20 am

using a high powered gun is not aloud for a public place. gun is good for self defense but don't use it for crime or illegal doings.


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Post by nerox » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:55 am

Alex Kurdian wrote:I cant speak for you guys as guns are banned big time here in AUST...
Same here, to be honest ive only even seen one real gun, at Heathrow Airport, Our police dont even carry guns, or tasers ...
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Post by r/tguy02 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:57 am

^ so that leads me to ask, what do you (they) do when a criminal with a gun, goes on a rampage?
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Post by nerox » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:06 pm

r/tguy02 wrote:^ so that leads me to ask, what do you (they) do when a criminal with a gun, goes on a rampage?
we do have guns in all police stations and appropriate people to use them when its necessary for that kind of thing, but they are never carried routinely, except at airports.

Even in that situation they do anything possible to not have to shoot them coz when they do people go crazy.

it is extremely rare that kind of thing happens though, gun and ammo posession laws are so tight that its pretty much only farmers that own guns.
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Post by Alex Kurdian » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:19 pm

r/tguy02 wrote:^ so that leads me to ask, what do you (they) do when a criminal with a gun, goes on a rampage?
Don't worry about about that here our cops a FULLY armed to the max....Its the public that isn't...

ohh biker gangs...the mafia and petty criminals seemed to be majorly armed as well...Us poor folk are not...

Hmmm sux doesn't it...I can get a gun license but there are major restrictions...and its very complicated trust me...!! and they are very expensive..I couldn't even imagine owning one....I would if I could though for protection
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gtxtreme19 wrote:I'm not a complete "gun totin redneck" but I got this email from ruger this morning, I figured I would share since I know a few of you like your guns.

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/
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Alex Kurdian wrote:
r/tguy02 wrote:^ so that leads me to ask, what do you (they) do when a criminal with a gun, goes on a rampage?
Don't worry about about that here our cops a FULLY armed to the max....Its the public that isn't...

ohh biker gangs...the mafia and petty criminals seemed to be majorly armed as well...Us poor folk are not...

Hmmm sux doesn't it...I can get a gun license but there are major restrictions...and its very complicated trust me...!! and they are very expensive..I couldn't even imagine owning one....I would if I could though for protection
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gtxtreme19 wrote:I'm not a complete "gun totin redneck" but I got this email from ruger this morning, I figured I would share since I know a few of you like your guns.

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/
I'm a "gun totin' redneck" and proud of it, as Obummer said, "we southern boys cling to our guns and our religion ". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I remember reading that in Australia, if you want to have a competition handgun and you want to keep that handgun at home you have to actually PROVE that you are using it at a minimum of 6 competitions every year, and you still have to check it in with the police once or twice a year and tell them exactly what room it's secured in and what kind of safe/locks you're using. It's ridiculous.

But I think you hit the nail on the head. Doesn't matter how many guns you take away from the law abiding citizens, the criminals still have them.
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Post by r/tguy02 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:42 am

Exactly, I just wanted to confirm what I always believed
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Gun control is any law, policy, practice, or proposal designed to restrict or limit the possession, production, importation, shipment, sale, and/or use of firearms.


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Post by Marcel » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:28 pm

when i was in Mineral Wells, TX i was surprised at the amount of firearms 'normal' people have but i never experienced unsafe or threatened by them. Guns don't really impress me; it's the crazy in someone's eyes that scares me and not only when (s)he's looking through a crosshair!

All in all i am very open minded about gun possession but restricted on a 'benefit of the doubt' kind of deal: misdemeanor, felony or criminal acts with or involving firearms should have consequences for the person handling said firearms.
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Post by nerox » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:56 pm

whats the gun laws in Netherlands?

i guess the same as everywhere in Europe? (except those crazy swiss who dont really count as European anyway)
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Post by Hudson_Neon » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:31 am

Marcel wrote:when i was in Mineral Wells, TX i was surprised at the amount of firearms 'normal' people have but i never experienced unsafe or threatened by them. Guns don't really impress me; it's the crazy in someone's eyes that scares me and not only when (s)he's looking through a crosshair!

All in all i am very open minded about gun possession but restricted on a 'benefit of the doubt' kind of deal: misdemeanor, felony or criminal acts with or involving firearms should have consequences for the person handling said firearms.
you're not allowed to own firearms in the US if you have a felony and depending on the misdemeanor, they may or may not allow your legal purchase of the firearm. with all the bull shit being talked about, i recently added to my collection a nice 3 firearms.

on another note... i'm happy that i live in WI. although i recently just purchased my first handgun and am working on sorting out which CCWs i want, WI is an open carry state! :D

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Post by Skitlz » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:58 pm

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Post by Hudson_Neon » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:31 pm

Skitlz wrote:I don't see the point of owning a gun, personally, but I'm all for those who want them being able to have them.
because when it comes down to me or the other guy, i'm gonna live. that's why i own a gun

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Post by Skitlz » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:52 pm

If you have the time to run to your gun cabinet, unlock it, assemble your gun, load it, and prepare to fire it before a guy with a gun can shoot you, then you're probably pretty safe anyway.
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Post by Hudson_Neon » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:05 pm

Skitlz wrote:If you have the time to run to your gun cabinet, unlock it, assemble your gun, load it, and prepare to fire it before a guy with a gun can shoot you, then you're probably pretty safe anyway.
you honestly think that's how firearms are kept in my house? also, my previous statement pertained more to situations where i carry

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Post by Skitlz » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:42 pm

Well I'm used to people in my family owning guns and they have children. haha

And I often forget it's legal to carry in some states.
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