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Well I have been building my car as a daily driver with weekend track suspension. I like to keep the ACR still in it so I run adjustable struts and springs and not C/O's Here is what I have now and want to know what others think is the next step.

Alignment Specs:
Front:
Camber (L:-0.5, R: -0.5)
Toe (L: .00, R: .01)

Rear:
Camber (L: -1.0, R: -1.0)
Toe (L: .01, R: .01)


19mm Rear Swaybar
26mm PTGT Front Swaybar
Energy Control Arm Bushings
Energy Poly Swaybar Bushings
Energy Poly Tension Strut Bushings
Hotchkis Poly Bumpstops
Hotchkis Springs
MP ACR Tension Struts
Prothane Front Sway Bar Links
Prothane Rear Shorty Sway Bar Links
Tokico ACR Adjustable Struts (Front 2, Rear 3)
Urethane Filled Rear Strut Mounts
Vibrant Front STB
Vibrant Rear STB
16" ACR BBS Wheels
225/45/16 BFG KDW2's

I think Hotchkis sways are my next step along with MP adjustable control arms. I may even change to Rage-tek CA bushings.

Sounds like a pain in the ass. Which, in turn, makes it sound fun as hell.

Should have one hell of a responsive car by the time you're done.

Hey Slvr, there is a group buy for the 26" Progress rear sways going on at the Neons.org group buy forums. He's selling em for 100 shipped, sounds like a good deal.

Where did u get ur sway bar bushings?

I just actually purchased the Hotchkis sway bar kit Friday so Im stoked about getting that on. I bought all my bushings from Summit

Your gonna love your Hotchkis, make a big difference

Hotchkis sway bars are now on. I love them LOL

How did you like the "Welfare" set-up though? Was it worth the $100 or so that it costs?

Well I already had the 19mm rear being that I have an ACR and I only payed $55 for the front new. To be honest for the money it was worth it but I really wanted to see how much better it could get.

SlvrACR wrote: I think Hotchkis sways are my next step along with MP adjustable control arms. I may even change to Rage-tek CA bushings.

Unless you need some hardcore adjustability and weight loss, I don't know if the adjustable control arms are worth the effort. A set of Rage-teks or another spherical setup in stock LCA's will IMO really wake up the car and probably give you the feel you're looking for. You still have a good amount of adjustability as far as camber is concerned with the stock knuckles, if not nothing a little slotting the struts won't fix. Like I say, unless you need that hardcore adjustment, or want the caster adjustability an adjustable control arm may offer, I would just throw some rage-teks in.

Any links to these MP adjustable control arms?

I had the link but now I cant seem to find it. Once I do ill post. IDK if I am getting them it was just an idea. I really dont need them

How are your tires wearing with that alignment. Just asking mine is very similar with a tad more camber up front and is wearing the outsides fast than the insides.

YUP I guess I like to turn too.

I ran the -.05 camber (front & rear) for 2 years and still was balding the outside of my tires with no noticable wear on the inside.

I'm actually getting them set to -1.0 deg on saturday, but there is a FAQ on the other org saying that you could go as far as -2.0 deg camber with negligable inside tire wear.

To tell you the truth ive been running it like that for a year and havent seen much uneven wear at all.

I thought for our cars you should run more negative camber in the front and less in the rear in order to reduce under-steer??

SlvrACR wrote:To tell you the truth ive been running it like that for a year and havent seen much uneven wear at all.

Running according to who's setup?

daaboots wrote:I thought for our cars you should run more negative camber in the front and less in the rear in order to reduce under-steer??

that is a new one to me... I've reduced understeer just by "tightening" up the suspension... I know adjusting the camber helps with tire wear and traction, but (this shows how much I'm an amateur) wouldn't having less "traction/camber" in the rear induce more understeer?

hansken_yo wrote:I've reduced understeer just by "tightening" up the suspension...

Are you confusing understeer with body roll?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understeer