Strut Bars

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:04 pm

pyro wrote:Thanks Dante, I'd never seen the DC in a non-SRT. I like the sweet grey finish I saw on the DC, but mopar silver is fine too if it fits correct. You truly are a Helpful Counterguy!

Part # P4510876 is SRT # from turboneonstore.
Rear one is same-same with SRT, right?

Thank you, that means a lot to me

And yes, the rear is the same for SRT-4 and non SRT-4

Sorry for the crappy pic.

Adionik wrote:The front strut bar seemed to hit my SRT-4 CF hood...is that normal?

Hmmm, could be that the CF hood has more material underneath where the bar goes than the steel hood (kinda makes sense)

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:18 pm

I figured the air ducts were hitting it.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:27 pm

That makes sense, since they prob didn't design the hood with the strut bar in mind.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:11 am

does it matter which you put in first? front or rear? or best to get both at one time?

OB · Post by OB » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:30 am

Doesn't matter at all, neither one will make enough of a difference to alter the handling characteristics. The rear is in need of one more, if that's what you were asking. The large empty space of the trunk area makes for less stable strut towers, whereas the front towers have the subframe and engine mounts to help tighten things up. The DC bars are probably the best on the market. Adjustable bars are much less effective since they allow for a bit of flex at the pivots where the bar meets the towers. The solid welded design of the DC bars is ideal.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:07 am

yea thas wha I figured about the flex ones, I plan on going DC

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:29 am

? is that DC sports SRT 4 front strut bar on turboneonstore, will that fit a non - SRT

http://www.turboneonstore.com/customer/ ... =15&page=1

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:30 am

also, will the setup at MP be any good, you know the V type up front and the DC sports in the rear

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:10 am

Dimas wrote:? is that DC sports SRT 4 front strut bar on turboneonstore, will that fit a non - SRT

http://www.turboneonstore.com/customer/ ... =15&page=1

That listing is for a front bar, but is a rear bar picture. The SRT front will fit, but with the mods I listed above.

You can mix and match brands, but the DC bars will give better performance, imo

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:33 am

yea i noticed that but rather much not try and mod the hood for it to fit, does DC make any non srt front bars?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:43 pm

They should. I couldn't find the # for the DC bar, but the MP bar is part # P5153306...MSRP $159.00

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:00 pm

do you know what kind of bar it is, got a link to it? Is it any good, since I'm sold to the DC rear on MP

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:49 pm

The MP bar is made by DC. No pics of the non SRT bar however. Everyone I know has installed the SRT bar, including me...

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:00 pm

You need to paint that fuel rail cover blue... Badly.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:40 pm

Yesh, you are correct! I am doing that when I finally install the blue valve cover

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:16 am

so MP bar is from the dealership? sorry I'm thinkin MP is modern performance, and I'm seeing the mopar on there just for clarity

also is that the modern perf. TB you got there? Apparently I heard it threw a code for 03 R/Ts

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:42 am

Sorry. MP=Mopar Performance. MPx=Modern Performance.

Yep, thats a MPx TB that I bought from Joe (teamlivid) here.

No codes on my car, but I have heard that as well.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:03 pm

sweet thanks for the info.

rud3boi · Post by **rud3boi** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:09 pm

dont tjem bullshit ass egay bars i wasted money on mines and they dont even fudging fit.
i had to put them up side down

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:50 am

What color is the non-srt one, can I paint it? If so what should I use engine paint?

Plus how did you exactly cut out those two holders to fit the SRT one, since the turboneonstore offers the freakin front strut for only 114 I'm thinking why the hell not as opposed to the damn 159 for non srt from MP.

You say the srt rear strut will fit a non srt and the site has that for 114 as well, cheapest I suppose right? I plan on holding on the front for money issues since I rather save and just the damn things out myself and pay less.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:54 am

If you buy the DC bar, it will come in the dark gray color (Mopar paints theirs the silver color I have posted). You can paint it if you like. It may not be necessary to use engine paint, but higher temp paint can't hurt since it does get warm there.

I cut the hood pad tabs off this a pair of tin-snips. Bent the tab down and cut as close to the hood frame as possible. Then clean up the edge (to get rid of the sharp pieces of metal), then prime and paint the cut.

The rear bar is the same, and at $114.00, that is a good price. I did find the front (Mopar Performance) here for $109.65
http://www.monicattichrysler.com/comers ... roduct=556

and the rear for the same price
http://www.monicattichrysler.com/comers ... roduct=696

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:53 am

have you ordered from them before? Plus I went to the parts area with the P/N and he couldn't find it or something.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:23 pm

Hmmm, I haven't ordered from them before (I work at a dealer, so I wouldn't) but those links came up when I punched in the part #'s

Front Non SRT #P5153306
Front SRT .......#P4510543
Rear (Both).... #P4510876

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:01 pm

what dealer, well I mean went to a dodge chrysler w/e dealership and to the parts and service place and they couldn't find the damn front strut bar, so I just ordered the rear from turboneonstore.com so I can at least get something, freakin I paid 108 for the damn neg/pos battery cables.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:17 pm

Wow, wish I knew you needed info on the cables. Did you just need the ends? The catolog lists no ends for it, but there is one listing that works great, I got some for myself.

Between BRR and myself, we can get you #'s and MSRP on almost everything

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:56 am

Well ya I got the cables in today and I was looking at them and I'm like wtf is this. well at least on the positive cable I'm confused.

I haven't read the service manual just yet to make sense of it but I will as soon as I get the chance.

There seems to be to lil wires running from this end piece. Can't find the plug for it on the new wiring.

travels all in here and disappears.

connected to neg. battery cable no clue where this goes at the moment.

end of the positive cable.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:06 am

Hmmm. Looks like you have quite a project on your hands.

Definitely get a hold of a FSM.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:00 pm

FSM? yep either way the gayness I just mainly wanted the neg. cable since the last one was just horrible and rusted onto the batt. so I may just do that.

Back to suspension, alright I honestly don't feel like modding the hood for the SRT4 front strut. Now I ordered the SRT4 rear strut, no prob. but will it ruin the integrity of the MPx Vibrant (49.99) front strut. since the rear isn't as stable as the front, I may do the srt front later but, for now I rather save some money but wondering if have that rear strut will mess up the cheaper front.

Thanks.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:09 pm

FSM = Factory Service Manual

Having the DC/MP rear bar will have nothing to do with what bar you have in front, and vice-versa. If you have some kind of bar in the front, it's better than not having any. You'll be fine

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:13 pm

good stuff thanks for all the help, now I can concentrate on other things like the TB and CAI heh.

and that fsm online one doesn't say jack bout anything of details of the battery connections.