Srt4 Springs installed and now rear is too low??

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:49 pm

I have a 04 sxt and I have tokico struts and srt4 springs installed. Now my rear looks lower than the front? Before this setup i had the eibach prokit on these on the tokico and the rear was also lower than the front.
I made the switch to the srt4 springs because the eibach prokit was way to low for my taste and could not stand the lower rear compared to the front. Now the same thing happend to me again, although not as bad but still noticable that the rear is lower than the front. Will the front get lower in a couple of weeks?

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:53 pm

you might have put the front springs in the rear and the rear on the front. thats my first thought. because the prokit and the srt springs should be completely level..

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:31 pm

Good question? What if I installed them the opposite? I noticed different color tags on the srt springs. Can anyone specifie what color are the fronts and what color would be the rears, just to make sure I have them on right?

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:08 pm

Ok I have orange tags in the back and yellow tags up front.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:28 am

Well I think the springs are designed to make things level. The car is raked, so the front is usually lower, but to make it level you need a larger drop in the back. At least that's how I'll set mine up.

Also, both the front and the back should sit a little lower after the springs wear in a bit.

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:11 pm

Anyone else have an answer? I would like the front and rear gaps to be the same. Would the srt4 struts and mopar springs help? I just want a 1" drop all the way around

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:43 pm

how about a picture? No springs give you even drop, that I have heard of at least... besides, the SRT4 is only good for .5" front and .75" in back, at most. Let's see a pic, so we can have a better judgement of what you are talking about.

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:56 pm

The rear fender gap will always be les than the front because the quarter panel in the rear is lower where the front is cut higher. As long as the car is level it is fine here look at mine in my sig is the link I am slammed on coilovers and my front still has a lil gap and the rear is tucking. Its just how they designed the Neon.

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:04 pm

I will try and get some pics up. Just so you know I had coilovers and I had even gaps because they were adjustable. I got rid of them because I could no longer take the bumpy ride anymore. Now I need help with some combos to give me a even gap in the front and rear but still maintain stock ride quality and drop around 1". I also dont mind a little difference in gaps from front to rear but I think it is too exesive with the srt4 springs and tokico blues.

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:10 pm

Im sorry man but you usually cant have it both ways you either get sexy low and kinda ruff or your scenario now I had a spring combo on for a while to and had the ruff looking front gap and sexy rear but there isnt a spring out there unless you start cutting coils which is gonna get you there and then you loose your comfy ride. I love the coilovers its like driving a go kart all the time.

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:43 pm

Here are the pics. You can def see the difference from front to back. I like the way the back sits, now I have to figure out how to get the front lower?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:53 pm

Yep, that's the way it will look with pretty much any set-up you will run without getting coil-overs like randomZERO said.

That said, you may want to look at BRR's or kc2002acr's set-ups. I believe they both did something a bit different to get the gap more even.

And with that said, I personally feel the best set-up is MP coilovers give the best solution of looks, handling, and comfort.

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:56 pm

just get progress springs.. im running tokico blues with progress.. looks good and rides great.

kevin25 · Post by **kevin25** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:02 pm

I am not going back to coilovers exspecially since I went with this setup it rides so much better.
I think you are right i am always going to get that look no matter what springs I use. I have the eibach prokit and got the same reaction, it was too low for my taste and the rear sat way too compared to the front also.
Krc21, that is a little too low for my taste
Here is the pic with the eibach pro kit on tokicos

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:34 pm

Sportlines give an even gap front and rear, but its super low. The ride isn't bad either.

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:28 pm

Hey op what coilovers were you running?

HiHoSilver · Post by **HiHoSilver** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:43 am

OK, I am having the exact OPPOSITE problem with my SXT? The front of the car is slammed and the rear dropped 1" like I wanted it to. I purchased the Tein H.Tech springs that were supposed to do a 1.5" rear, and a 1.2" front. The car bottoms out everywhere because it is sitting so low in the front?! I've had to replace the front struts twice now and I just put the springs on in January!
WTF? I got no response from Tein when I tried to contact customer support. Any ideas?

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kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:25 pm

I would assume your struts are blown.

as for the pics of the original poster, I used SRT4 springs in the rear and 1gn RT springs in the front and it looked good, gave it a muscle car stance, but I have since replaced it for the 1gn RT springs both front/rear, and I still love the ride and the way it looks.

HiHoSilver · Post by **HiHoSilver** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:37 pm

well, the struts don't affect ride height, even if they are blown...Not sure why that would matter? The springs hold the car up....

Anyway, they are new. As in I just replaced them again, last weekend! See, I swappend the entire suspension out from an '04 SRT4 onto my '04 SXT. When I did that, is when the car sat so low in the front? The Tein springs are for the SRT4. I only wanted approx. 1" drop. I was told the SRT4 struts spring perch sat lower than my SXT struts which was why I had the front end problem...so I ordered a pair of factory SXT struts to compare...not the case. The spring perch was the exact same height. Now I have someone trying to tell me the top hats for the SRT4 are designed different and are accounting for my extra 3/4" drop in the front. Can anyone confirm this?

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:26 pm

blown struts do change your ride height and yes the srt strut perches are higher then the sxt. thats why you can run bigger tires with srt struts and not with the sxt struts.

HiHoSilver · Post by **HiHoSilver** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:39 am

ok, wow that totally didn't make sense? so you're saying the SRT4 strut perches are higher than SXT? I was told they were LOWER which was why my ride height was messed up. My front is too low not high. So I replaced them with the SXT struts and re-measured, the car never budged.
My question was if the SRT4 strut plates were different, i.e. "top hats". However I already went to the dealer and verified that they are the same, from SRT4 to SXT.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:10 am

the strut mounts are identicle. the spring perch is up higher on the SRT struts. I'm wondering if you accidentally put the rear spring on the front.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:00 pm

HiHoSilver wrote:well, the struts don't affect ride height, even if they are blown...Not sure why that would matter? The springs hold the car up....

Struts DO affect ride height...

SRT struts have a higher perch.