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ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:01 pm
by c987long
for struts i am going with: Tokico HP Struts
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84
springs: Eibach Sportline lowering springs
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84
and camberbolts.. do i need to order two sets right?
http://www.modernperformance.com/index. ... 0ea7455a84
shorter end links quantity of 2
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 72bd19b102
is there anything else that i need bushings or anyother misc things.. I want this to be done right on the first time..
thanks for the input
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:13 pm
by Neon4Life
that seems just about good.
are you going to be setting up the springs and struts ur self ?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:10 pm
by c987long
i planned to, couple of friends who have done lowerning are going to help, then taking it to my buddys garage to get an alignment
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:28 pm
by Neon4Life
man thats nice that u got the hookup at a alignment shop.
i was just asking cause some people pay shops to do the springs and its not really that hard.
but those options look good.
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:54 pm
by excon
just curious, why are you buying camber bolts? Are you planning on some negative camber? I wouldn't bother buying camber bolts unless you want to play with it.
...but I like 0 camber.
whatever you decide to do, post pictures afterwards. I hear that some people did some with different brands and the back was lower than the front. I'm not sure if they did it wrong though...
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:59 pm
by Mr Josh Zombie
buddys garage? who... my car needs aligned
Re: ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:07 am
by blue demon02
Be prepared to replace the strut top bearing. They don't last for shit and once they go they go. Do yourself a favor and replace them anyway so you don't have to take apart you stock struts at all. Trust me when I tell you that unless you have a good impact gun and some good spring compressors you will thank me on the top hats.
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:11 am
by ZeroChad
I'll send ya my eibach camber kit for $15 (1 set for rear). Its brand new. I ended up not needing them with my coilovers. Shoot me a pm if you're interested.
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:04 pm
by hansken_yo
excon wrote:just curious, why are you buying camber bolts? Are you planning on some negative camber? I wouldn't bother buying camber bolts unless you want to play with it.
...but I like 0 camber.
Negative camber increases handling on corners. It is noticeable and aids in getting rid of the under steer. I love to have -1 deg. on the front and rear. The only down side... if you can call it that because I love it... is that on hard corners the car will actually grip and cut in hard from over steer if you aren't expecting it.
Besides, your going to throw the camber off by lowering it anyway and the bolts make it easier to get even camber on all 4 corners.
Re: ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:00 pm
by c987long
blue demon02 wrote:
Be prepared to replace the strut top bearing. They don't last for shit and once they go they go. Do yourself a favor and replace them anyway so you don't have to take apart you stock struts at all. Trust me when I tell you that unless you have a good impact gun and some good spring compressors you will thank me on the top hats.
i need to replace my top hats anyways, i think that that is where my annoying squeak is coming from.. auto zone should have some right? or is there a better place?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:41 pm
by c987long
i was just looking at moderns site... should i invest in the shorter end links fro my sway bars?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:49 pm
by King Crab
I can say from personal experience I bought and installed the shorter end-links from modern. I have heard that some people do use them and some people don't. But as far as I'm concerned it just seemed liked the right thing to do, since I was changing the suspensions height.
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:56 pm
by c987long
then i will ad 2 sets of those to the list
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:10 pm
by King Crab
You only need 1 set of end-links for the rear sway bar. You wont need any up front.
If you take a look in my profile, there's a photo of inside the rear wheel that shows the end-links.
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:03 am
by excon
hansken_yo wrote:
Negative camber increases handling on corners. It is noticeable and aids in getting rid of the under steer. I love to have -1 deg. on the front and rear. The only down side... if you can call it that because I love it... is that on hard corners the car will actually grip and cut in hard from over steer if you aren't expecting it.
Besides, your going to throw the camber off by lowering it anyway and the bolts make it easier to get even camber on all 4 corners.
Do you have abnormal tire wear with -1 degree? I would imagine that it would wear the inside of the tires first. not much, but still... over time...
Don't get me wrong, negative camber is good if you are doing hard cornering and/or using it to your advantage to reduce the amount of understeer, but since I don't do that on a daily basis, I'd rather have 0 camber on all four wheels.