dropzone springs 2005 stx
dropzone springs 2005 stx
I just wanted to Let anyone knowwho is is considering dropzone springs for there car, that the rear springs are shorter than the struts. This leaves a gap and if you jack up the car the springs will fall out of place. This is with stock struts. I am returning them because i just installed eibach prokit. The eibach springs are progressive and fill the whole space in the strut. I followed the instructions and cut my bumpstops and went for a test drive on a bumpy road and had no issues. I dont post on boards very much, but have gained a lot of help reading old posts on this board. 
Last edited by dlbhaas on Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- hansken_yo
- 2GN Veteran
- Posts: 5148
- Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:54 am
- Location: Washington
Rule of thumb, you get what you pay for.

| - John || Project Log || Official I'm Going To Drive My Neon Till It Dies Club #000001 |
Everyone knows that for breasts to be "perfect" they need to be within reach.
Re: dropzone springs 2005 stx
Prokit, or Sportlines?dlbhaas wrote:I just wanted to Let anyone knowwho is is considering dropzone springs for there car, that the rear springs are shorter than the struts. This leaves a gap and if you jack up the car the springs will fall out of place. This is with stock struts. I am returning them because i just installed eibach prolines. The eibach springs are progressive and fill the whole space in the strut. I followed the instructions and cut my bumpstops and went for a test drive on a bumpy road and had no issues. I dont post on boards very much, but have gained a lot of help reading old posts on this board.

haha I was able to get my front TEIN springs on without a compressor (just pushed them down by hand and it was enough to start the nut). Can't believe the rears were so short though! Those are huge from the factory.
-Derek
|Donate to 2gn|Feedback || OB's | GozziFab | All Business |
|Donate to 2gn|Feedback || OB's | GozziFab | All Business |
- bone-yard-racing
- 2GN Member
- Posts: 2328
- Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
- Location: York PA
- Contact:
All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible
Shockingly lowering springs are typically shorter. Progressive springs suck and are marketed solely to stupid people. If the lining the spring back up is too much for you a few zip ties will hold the spring Chrysler even made holes for you
Shockingly lowering springs are typically shorter. Progressive springs suck and are marketed solely to stupid people. If the lining the spring back up is too much for you a few zip ties will hold the spring Chrysler even made holes for you

-
neonslg09
- 2GN Veteran
- Posts: 5590
- Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 7:17 pm
- Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia
uh eibachs arent horrible. their drop may not be low enough and their spring rate may not be hard enough but they are far from horriblebone-yard-racing wrote:All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible
Last edited by neonslg09 on Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I have to be able to drive in the winter through snow, so I am happy with the pro-kit drop. A friend of mine has the sportlines on his 2004 srt-4 it is lower than mine but he only drives it in the summer. It is a hard decision deciding on how much to lower the car and what brand springs to get , If i could have afforded it, I woud have gone with coilovers.
- sidepipe87
- 2009 Silver Contributor
- Posts: 9501
- Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 5:35 pm
- Location: Pittsburgh, PA
- Contact:
bone-yard-racing wrote:All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible
Shockingly lowering springs are typically shorter. Progressive springs suck and are marketed solely to stupid people. If the lining the spring back up is too much for you a few zip ties will hold the spring Chrysler even made holes for you
Sooo H&R's are now trash too??? The Limited Edition Sport springs I got definitely look like a progressive rate spring in the rear (they were very tall and have many coils very close to each other at the bottom) and they handle and ride wayyy better than the Mopars ever could have.
PM me for your 03+ PCM SKIM/VIN flashing needs. Neon PCMs Plus
- bone-yard-racing
- 2GN Member
- Posts: 2328
- Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
- Location: York PA
- Contact:
In terms of PERFORMANCE springs Eibach are horrible yes they provide the look and livable street performance but on track they are useless
Again in terms of performance progressive springs are bad, why? Because lets say you turn in compressing the lower rate portion of the spring, you now have a massive gain in spring rate this will upset the car quite badly in many cases. A properly designed solid state spring will always out perform a "progressive" spring. That being said all springs are progressive as it takes continually more force to compress a spring the farther you go. And most if not all springs marketed as progressive are not they are "dual rate" ie 2 different winds providing 2 different rates, we'll say the first 7" of travel is 140lb/in and the remaining 2" is 300lb/in this is fine as it provides a decent street ride while giving you a safety margin to prevent bottoming the strut or bouncing off the bumpstops.
Again in terms of performance progressive springs are bad, why? Because lets say you turn in compressing the lower rate portion of the spring, you now have a massive gain in spring rate this will upset the car quite badly in many cases. A properly designed solid state spring will always out perform a "progressive" spring. That being said all springs are progressive as it takes continually more force to compress a spring the farther you go. And most if not all springs marketed as progressive are not they are "dual rate" ie 2 different winds providing 2 different rates, we'll say the first 7" of travel is 140lb/in and the remaining 2" is 300lb/in this is fine as it provides a decent street ride while giving you a safety margin to prevent bottoming the strut or bouncing off the bumpstops.

- bone-yard-racing
- 2GN Member
- Posts: 2328
- Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
- Location: York PA
- Contact:
- sidepipe87
- 2009 Silver Contributor
- Posts: 9501
- Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 5:35 pm
- Location: Pittsburgh, PA
- Contact:
look wise maybe, but for real world functionality 1gn R/T or ACR springs are still too soft for roads that are imperfect. My H&R's are great for a street driven car that I expect to perform well. They've been through hell already and still haven't bottomed out or rode harsh. They're a great street setup. I don't plan on auto-x or tracking my car.bone-yard-racing wrote:In that case anything will work. Hell your best option if you it right would probably be to cut the stockers or 1gn springs
PM me for your 03+ PCM SKIM/VIN flashing needs. Neon PCMs Plus
-
occasional demons
- Junior Admin
- Posts: 20067
- Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
- Location: Ashland Ohio
I can't believe you of all ppl would even say that, even in jest.bone-yard-racing wrote:In that case anything will work. Hell your best option if you it right would probably be to cut the stockers
There is no safe way to cut springs for struts.
Bill
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
- sidepipe87
- 2009 Silver Contributor
- Posts: 9501
- Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 5:35 pm
- Location: Pittsburgh, PA
- Contact:
^why did you just bump this old thread?....
PM me for your 03+ PCM SKIM/VIN flashing needs. Neon PCMs Plus
-
occasional demons
- Junior Admin
- Posts: 20067
- Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
- Location: Ashland Ohio
Good question. It was at the top of the list, so I didn't even look at the date.
You have to go three pages back to even get to 2009. And there are 5 or 6 threads at the top that are 2010.
Ghost bump?
I got fucking ninja'd by a ghost in the machine.
Bill
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
- sidepipe87
- 2009 Silver Contributor
- Posts: 9501
- Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 5:35 pm
- Location: Pittsburgh, PA
- Contact:
it's strange.. I saw it at the top too and thought it was new too because the OP just posted in another thread.
PM me for your 03+ PCM SKIM/VIN flashing needs. Neon PCMs Plus
-
occasional demons
- Junior Admin
- Posts: 20067
- Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
- Location: Ashland Ohio
Phew, I thought PC or Google Chrome was doing something odd.
I know I'm not right.
I know I'm not right.
Bill
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap