dropzone springs 2005 stx

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dropzone springs 2005 stx

Post by dlbhaas » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:41 pm

I just wanted to Let anyone knowwho is is considering dropzone springs for there car, that the rear springs are shorter than the struts. This leaves a gap and if you jack up the car the springs will fall out of place. This is with stock struts. I am returning them because i just installed eibach prokit. The eibach springs are progressive and fill the whole space in the strut. I followed the instructions and cut my bumpstops and went for a test drive on a bumpy road and had no issues. I dont post on boards very much, but have gained a lot of help reading old posts on this board. :)
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Post by hansken_yo » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:44 pm

:thumbup: on Eibach.

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Post by excon » Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:29 pm

dlbhaas wrote:I just wanted to Let anyone knowwho is is considering dropzone springs for there car, that the rear springs are shorter than the struts. This leaves a gap and if you jack up the car the springs will fall out of place. This is with stock struts. I am returning them because i just installed eibach prolines. The eibach springs are progressive and fill the whole space in the strut. I followed the instructions and cut my bumpstops and went for a test drive on a bumpy road and had no issues. I dont post on boards very much, but have gained a lot of help reading old posts on this board. :)
Prokit, or Sportlines?
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Post by dlbhaas » Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:43 pm

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Post by neonslg09 » Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:06 pm

did you upgrade yours struts?

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Post by dlbhaas » Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:42 pm

I am currently on stock struts, until I save the money to upgrade. The car has 50,000 miles on her, I dont Know how long the stock struts will last but so far the ride is fine.

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Post by OB » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:49 pm

haha I was able to get my front TEIN springs on without a compressor (just pushed them down by hand and it was enough to start the nut). Can't believe the rears were so short though! Those are huge from the factory.
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Post by neonslg09 » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:52 pm

haha how else you think they are gonna create a drop? :lol:

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Post by bone-yard-racing » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:10 pm

All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible

Shockingly lowering springs are typically shorter. Progressive springs suck and are marketed solely to stupid people. If the lining the spring back up is too much for you a few zip ties will hold the spring Chrysler even made holes for you
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Post by neonslg09 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:43 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible
uh eibachs arent horrible. their drop may not be low enough and their spring rate may not be hard enough but they are far from horrible
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Post by dlbhaas » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:50 pm

I have to be able to drive in the winter through snow, so I am happy with the pro-kit drop. A friend of mine has the sportlines on his 2004 srt-4 it is lower than mine but he only drives it in the summer. It is a hard decision deciding on how much to lower the car and what brand springs to get , If i could have afforded it, I woud have gone with coilovers.

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Post by neonslg09 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:23 pm

prokit is perfect for all season driving.


coilovers are ideal. as always. just pricey

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Post by sidepipe87 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:58 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:All of the springs mentioned in this thread save the Teins are horrible

Shockingly lowering springs are typically shorter. Progressive springs suck and are marketed solely to stupid people. If the lining the spring back up is too much for you a few zip ties will hold the spring Chrysler even made holes for you

Sooo H&R's are now trash too??? The Limited Edition Sport springs I got definitely look like a progressive rate spring in the rear (they were very tall and have many coils very close to each other at the bottom) and they handle and ride wayyy better than the Mopars ever could have.
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Post by bone-yard-racing » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:07 pm

In terms of PERFORMANCE springs Eibach are horrible yes they provide the look and livable street performance but on track they are useless

Again in terms of performance progressive springs are bad, why? Because lets say you turn in compressing the lower rate portion of the spring, you now have a massive gain in spring rate this will upset the car quite badly in many cases. A properly designed solid state spring will always out perform a "progressive" spring. That being said all springs are progressive as it takes continually more force to compress a spring the farther you go. And most if not all springs marketed as progressive are not they are "dual rate" ie 2 different winds providing 2 different rates, we'll say the first 7" of travel is 140lb/in and the remaining 2" is 300lb/in this is fine as it provides a decent street ride while giving you a safety margin to prevent bottoming the strut or bouncing off the bumpstops.
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Post by neonslg09 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:12 pm

but we arent talking about pushing our neon to the limits on the track, are we?

i think this thread is directed to talking about street driveability and overall look.

not, track use.

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Post by bone-yard-racing » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:32 pm

In that case anything will work. Hell your best option if you it right would probably be to cut the stockers or 1gn springs
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Post by sidepipe87 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:47 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:In that case anything will work. Hell your best option if you it right would probably be to cut the stockers or 1gn springs
look wise maybe, but for real world functionality 1gn R/T or ACR springs are still too soft for roads that are imperfect. My H&R's are great for a street driven car that I expect to perform well. They've been through hell already and still haven't bottomed out or rode harsh. They're a great street setup. I don't plan on auto-x or tracking my car.
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Post by occasional demons » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:42 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:In that case anything will work. Hell your best option if you it right would probably be to cut the stockers
I can't believe you of all ppl would even say that, even in jest.

There is no safe way to cut springs for struts.
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Post by sidepipe87 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:56 pm

^why did you just bump this old thread?....
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Post by occasional demons » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:32 pm

:shock:

Good question. It was at the top of the list, so I didn't even look at the date.

You have to go three pages back to even get to 2009. And there are 5 or 6 threads at the top that are 2010. :tardbang:

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Post by sidepipe87 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:26 pm

it's strange.. I saw it at the top too and thought it was new too because the OP just posted in another thread.
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Post by occasional demons » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:30 pm

Phew, I thought PC or Google Chrome was doing something odd.

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