Energy Suspension LCA bushings

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Energy Suspension LCA bushings

Post by Caraudioholic24 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:38 am

Ok so Im confused as which ones to get for my Neon. Ive heard everyone saying to get the pt/srt-4 ones. Well I called ES to see what the REAL difference was for about ten bucks and was told that the srt4 ones will not fit or at least the vertical ones are different. I figure for ten bucks and being made for a better car it would be made a little better/stiffer which is what Im going for. Any help would be great. Thanks
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Post by ragek23 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:32 pm

? I totally thought the LCA bushings were the same for all second gens and all PT cruisers.

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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:28 pm

Same here but i called to see what the ten dollar difference was. They told me that the vertical ones had a different diameter hole. Thats why im dumbfounded right now.
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Post by occasional demons » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:35 pm

I believe I used the black SRT ones in mine. Granted, I have the SRT LCA's, but other than some reinforcement at the sway mount, there is no difference.

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Since you are reusing the metal sleeve, and leaving the shell in the LCA, I don't see how anything could be different.


It is only a $4 price difference at Summit.

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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:38 am

Ok well so I guess we can assume that the srt/pt ones are better? Im getting ready to buy these this week. Thanks for all the input
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:45 am

I really cannot see the difference....like demons said theres one tiny piece of metal that's welded to the PT/SRT arm in the center for the endlink. Other than that...no difference at all.

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Post by occasional demons » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:18 pm

I also trimmed #3370/#3406 so it fits evenly over the top of the LCA instead of having to flex over the arm.

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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:29 pm

Ok well I ordered the srt/pt set in black. 5.3129 Hopefully I dont run into any issues. If so you will see these up for sale here shortly. LOL
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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:42 am

ok so I tried to instll these tonite and I had a questionfor those who have done this already. When pressing the verticcal bushing together in the arm the bottom bushing will not stay in place. I cant see how it can when there really insnt anywhere for it to seat. The top is holding in there fine with the sleeve but if provoked it will wiggle out. So Im curious if anyone else ran into this. Im curious if I install it into the car will the bolt hold everything together. Let me know and if any pics are floating around that would be awesome. Thanks.
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Post by darthroush » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:10 am

New bushings can do that because they are new and haven't seated. My Prothane ones wouldn't stay in all the way, but I just reinstalled the LCA's. Prothane also said to retorque after 50 miles due to seating. One of the bolts was a bit loose. Fine now. No problems.

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Post by SlvrACR » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:04 am

I have SRT ones in my RT and my ACR had them. Didnt know they evenhad a reg neon one
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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:56 pm

yea thats the problem. Im not sure if I should get the regular neon ones and see if they will fit more snug.?. I bought a 12ton press so I would have no issues with these. I was up till 4 in the mornin last night trying to get this done. I was ablt to press in the ball joint and the horizontal bushings no problem. I just dont want to go through all this again anytime soon.
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Post by Danteneon » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:29 pm

Once you can get all three pieces to sit together in the arm (no easy task that), cafefully get them to the car and slide them in place. Mine did not want to slide right in since they wern't fully seated, so I used a prybar to pull down the lower portion of the K-frame slightly so the arm would slide in.

Once you get the arm in place, bolt them down and they will seat themselves fine.
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Post by 1972demon » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:56 pm

the prothanes are much easier to install, and i think the prothane is the same master kit for a 2gn and PT so i cant see the energys being different
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