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Post by hansken_yo » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:36 am

OB wrote:
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OB wrote: The eibach c/o's arent even dampening adjustable... What in the world do you consider a "proper" damper? The BC's are superior to the Eibach's available for the PL chassis.
I put it in red for you. What to I believe to be a proper damper? Ive said it a million times DYNO PLOT in english and of more than 1 damper.

It been show by a shock specialist(Ill dig up the link later) that a vast majority of the cheap dampers adjustibality is a joke either the adjusters dont work or the work the opposite way you want, or, compression adjusters that change rebound more than compression. I would rather take a non adjustiable(however they are user rebuildiable and revalvable) damper that I know was built by people who know what they are doing than one made by some 4 year old Mylasian just so I can have ZOMG mad cool 1,759,728 way adjustiable dampers
Tell me, how many sets of BC coilovers have you owned? How many have you personally seen on a shock dyno? How many sets of Motons? Ohlins? How can you think you know everything about suspension when you can't even spell the word clevis correctly? How many autox championships do you have? What racecars have you built?

I get what you're saying about the quality of the BC's, and I totally agree that they are sub-standard in comparison to the top brand names. But like many have said before me, most of our members are buying them for a street driven, mildly modified grocery getter, not a racecar. And while I'm a huge supporter of buying name brand quality parts, I think it's a good idea to look at every option. From what I've heard (from people who actually have real world experience) the BC's are actually pretty damn decent. BC stuff can even be found on a few purpose built track cars. Now that doesn't automatically mean they're a great product, but it does tell me that the company is interested in R&D, and that they want to get involved in racing. That's enough of a reason for me to give them a second look.
It is my opinion that though they are not the best on the market they are the best "value" for what you spend. I will not classify them as "cheap" but they are inexpensive.

I also have experience with adjusting the dampening levels and have seen improvement with my ability to keep the tires on the ground under power on the street as a result of my adjustments. If I were to take the car to the track again i would adjust the dampening accordingly.

On top of my opinion, another opinion from people I know running BCs is that due to the stress they put the car under (suspension wise) the inexpensive product is a plus in their book in terms of being okay with having the replace components if that were to occur sooner than a top quality product.
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Post by excon » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:17 pm

both the BC coilovers and the Eibach Pro Street Coilovers go for the same price on modernperformance. I'm currently considering buying one of the two.

...So which is the better choice for a daily driver?
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Post by hansken_yo » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:34 pm

BCs are more adjustable than the eibachs. So if you care about having that available, then BCs would be they way you want to go. If you don't care about that then I'd probably say Eibachs.
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Post by theTeejmiester » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:52 pm

so uh... WHO is selling said BC coil overs for 500 bucks nib???? um can i haz this info so i may have such an opportunity to purchase before mentioned coil overs??
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Post by Donkeypuncher » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:36 pm

I think you mean aforementioned said coil overs. Sorry, improper english makes me want to correct people.

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Post by Mopar65 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:07 pm

theTeejmiester wrote:so uh... WHO is selling said BC coil overs for 500 bucks nib???? um can i haz this info so i may have such an opportunity to purchase before mentioned coil overs??
Don't bother. They are shit and actually not true BC's but apparently rip offs according to BC when I emailed them with the pics and info.
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Post by theTeejmiester » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:20 pm

Donkeypuncher wrote:I think you mean aforementioned said coil overs. Sorry, improper english makes me want to correct people.
haha if you must know, i am learning english as a second laguage.................for the last 26 years.........so good day to you sir :rofl:
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Post by Donkeypuncher » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:21 am

It's better than most native english speakers we've encountered on this forum so props to you. I'm learning spanish as a 2nd language, so I'm sure I'd do much worse trying to type it. I'm kind of OCD though, I check google for correct spelling on a regular basis.

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Post by theTeejmiester » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:42 am

^^nah man i am a native english speaker but i fuck it up so often its a running joke with me and my friends that i should learn it as a second language :lol:
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drop?

Post by nerox » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:27 pm

what drop do you get on the BC?

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Post by fixitmattman » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:27 pm

I was running 2" front, ~2.5" rear.
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Re: drop?

Post by neonslg09 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:48 pm

nerox wrote:what drop do you get on the BC?
What ever you want, mild, slammed, subtle. Whatever your liking is.

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Post by hansken_yo » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:07 pm

I've got mine set where the front pinch weld behind front tires is at 3" with 1.5 " rack where the rear pinch weld in front of rear tires is at 4.5" IIRC. Could be at most a half in higher overall. Can't remember off hand right now.
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Post by Fuzzyneon » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:46 am

neonslg09 wrote:Just swallow 300 more bucks and get megan's.

Go read my review on it.
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