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Ground control?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:31 am
by vielecustoms
I found out the slip on coilovers are ground control's. Is there any way to adjust them with out a wrench? or is there somewhere I can order a wrench for them? I need to lift the car so that it is not bottoming out. I plan on some new struts and springs soon...
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:35 am
by Neon4Life
Groud Control's == a fancy name for Ebay crappy slip on coils
anyways. from what i have read before it doesnt matter if you do adjust it higher you are still going to bottom out beacuse they are bassically crap. a wrench ?? well i dont think theres anywhere you can buy the wrench at. maybe ebay. who knows.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:29 am
by vielecustoms
not disagreeing with you there. these things are garbage, the previous owner put them on the fronts are adjusted all the way down, the rear is just over half way down. the car basically rides on the bump stops, it was not too bad in the summer, but since the winter kicked in and all the frost heaves and crap the springs suck ass!
I went to progress's site and they only have em for srt's and 1gn so there could be a big part of the problem.
I'm planning on new tokico struts and either progress or tien springs Very soon.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:34 am
by 1972demon
well if there actual ground controls, there not ebay garbage, there 400 bucks new and you pair them with a set of re-valved konis. that set-up will be better than any coilover setup you are going to buy. i ran them for awhile on my 1gn track car, handling was amazing.
*waits for blair to step in and verify*
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:04 am
by vielecustoms
they look like these

just a little dirty and aged. I will try to get a pic while I take a shot at adjusting them. from what I've read (on a Honda forum no less

) is they do not need a wrench, just jack up the car loosen the locking screw and they should turn up or down.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:14 am
by 1972demon
if there ground controls, you pair them with a set of koni inserts and you got some great suspension, as for turn them by hand. yes, if there not seized, but it sounds like they are.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:53 am
by vielecustoms
that's why I'm taking a couple big f'in pipe wrenchs with me lol
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:22 am
by Mopar_Korean
Actually Sport Compact Car Magazine put these on Koni yellows for their 1st gen project and they loved them. But they also said it was a VERY VERY bumpy ride.
If I recall correctly they had the Konis revalved, or had custom spring rates. It was one or the other I just cant remember which.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:22 pm
by stdlystdmufn
vielecustoms wrote: they only have em for srt's and 1gn so there could be a big part of the problem.
if it fits the srt 4 it will filt the 2000-2005 neon (every 2gn neon) as long as we're talking suspension parts
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:28 pm
by vielecustoms
meh they are seized up, so they'll hit the dumpster as soon as I get some new springs. I'm thinking about going with the OEM springs and struts for now, I'm losing interest in the car and it will more than likely become a daily beater once my truck is finished.
stdlystdmufn wrote:vielecustoms wrote: they only have em for srt's and 1gn so there could be a big part of the problem.
if it fits the srt 4 it will filt the 2000-2005 neon (every 2gn neon) as long as we're talking suspension parts
My problem was that these were put on the car in '02 SRT was not out till '03? so they would have to be 1gn springs so they would not be tall / heavy enough? (this car was dropped, wheels, body kit and magnaflow catback before the engine was broken in. previous owner had gotten a check from a small fender bender from the insurance all the damage done was cosmetic so they blew it all on ebay parts

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:55 pm
by Anonymous User
Neon4Life wrote:Groud Control's == a fancy name for Ebay crappy slip on coils
LOL at fancy name.....its the company that the ebay ones try to copy.

, if you havent rode on them then i wouldnt comment on them.
vielecustoms wrote:meh they are seized up, so they'll hit the dumpster as soon as I get some new springs. I'm thinking about going with the OEM springs and struts for now, I'm losing interest in the car and it will more than likely become a daily beater once my truck is finished.
if they are siezed you could let them sit in some kerosene, it should help loosen them up.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:26 pm
by MrAngry
I have a wrench for those if you need one?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:47 pm
by stdlystdmufn
vielecustoms wrote:My problem was that these were put on the car in '02 SRT was not out till '03? so they would have to be 1gn springs so they would not be tall / heavy enough? (this car was dropped, wheels, body kit and magnaflow catback before the engine was broken in. previous owner had gotten a check from a small fender bender from the insurance all the damage done was cosmetic so they blew it all on ebay parts

right but the SRT uses the same chasis as the 00-02. i have srt coilover on my 05 but they will still fit the 00-02
as far as 1gn springs go i don't know what you're asking but they will drop the car a little (but i have never put 1gn springs on a 2gn)
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:12 am
by theTeejmiester
ground control plus koni = win, win, win

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:30 am
by hybrid-Srt2001
vielecustoms wrote:meh they are seized up, so they'll hit the dumpster as soon as I get some new springs. I'm thinking about going with the OEM springs and struts for now, I'm losing interest in the car and it will more than likely become a daily beater once my truck is finished.
stdlystdmufn wrote:vielecustoms wrote: they only have em for srt's and 1gn so there could be a big part of the problem.
if it fits the srt 4 it will filt the 2000-2005 neon (every 2gn neon) as long as we're talking suspension parts
My problem was that these were put on the car in '02 SRT was not out till '03? so they would have to be 1gn springs so they would not be tall / heavy enough? (this car was dropped, wheels, body kit and magnaflow catback before the engine was broken in. previous owner had gotten a check from a small fender bender from the insurance all the damage done was cosmetic so they blew it all on ebay parts

if they are real ground controls, i will take them off your hands i could use the extra sleeves and springs. Let me know what you want for shipping...