lowering springs

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:38 pm

okay so, i have a set of Tein springs, and am hoping to install them in a few weeks. now im being told i should get new struts right away because they will be shot in a week.. i know i will for sure need new struts but was thinking of getting them once summer came around because i will have more money to work with. i would appriciate any help or feedback from people who have done this already (most of you have)
thanks a lot... brandon

DOSneons · Post by **DOSneons** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:42 pm

i lowered m y 05 3 months after i had it with sportlines, had the car for little over 4 years and never had a problem with the struts.

i know people have had problems and recomend upgrading them but that is my personal expierience

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:47 pm

thanks dude. i was planning on getting some eventually for a better ride but financially right now its not gunna work out haha
ill get a few more opinions and see how it goes...
much appriciated

theTeejmiester · Post by **theTeejmiester** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:13 pm

just install them, i highly doubt that tien springs will destroy your struts a very short time, they are not as aggressive as other springs like the eibach sportlines. just make sure you don't cut your bumpstops, otherwise go for it

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:37 pm

theTeejmiester wrote:just install them, i highly doubt that tien springs will destroy your struts a very short time, they are not as aggressive as other springs like the eibach sportlines. just make sure you don't cut your bumpstops, otherwise go for it

thanks man. yeah well the guy thats helping me put them on installed sportlines on his girlsfriends acura and he said in a week the struts were blown

1972demon · Post by **1972demon** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:43 pm

just go for it, if he struts blow you can buy the konis off me as well.

OB · Post by OB » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:12 pm

xbrandonx wrote:thanks dude. i was planning on getting some eventually for a better ride but financially right now its not gunna work out haha
ill get a few more opinions and see how it goes...
much appriciated

Yeah the TEINs are gonna pummel the bumpstops, especially with stock soft shocks.

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:13 pm

Lowering springs will shorten the struts' life but not that much...

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:01 am

If you are going to be changing out the struts anyways, why not just save yourself the trouble and wait a couple of months and do it all at once, one time?

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:17 am

darthroush wrote:If you are going to be changing out the struts anyways, why not just save yourself the trouble and wait a couple of months and do it all at once, one time?

because you will need an alignment after switching them out, and doing that twice is costly...

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:21 am

^and if you change the springs now it will make the car looks nicer now, not months later

.

I heard that even swap springs needs alignment? Although I didn't and the car runs fine now.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:36 am

I agree on the doing it all at once idea, FTW.

As far as the alignment thing goes... I've found over the years that a lot of people on here push to align these cars after doing a spring swap. The real truth is, camber is really all that is affected. Now while this is important, it is NON ADJUSTABLE on these cars. At all. So all you're left with that actually CAN be adjusted is toe. Toe might be affected a hair, but almost certainly not enough to require correction in most cases. It's all those potholes you hit, that beat the suspension to a pulp, that throw toe off. Just wanted to throw that out there.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:21 am

when you change ride height and camber, the toe changes. thats why the toe needs to be adjusted. camber will have almost no affect on tire wear if kept below 3 degrees.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:09 pm

hybrid-Srt2001 wrote:when you change ride height and camber, the toe changes. thats why the toe needs to be adjusted. camber will have almost no affect on tire wear if kept below 3 degrees.

The toe change is minimal, especially for milder drops. I'd bet that it isn't even thrown out of acceptable values in most cases, especially in cars that are already well taken care of. I'm not saying it isn't a good idea to have it aligned, but it's not as critical as some people say it is. I went from the Prokit to the TEINs, and didn't align the car for close to 2 years. After pummeling the car on CA roads, eventually my left front toe got knocked out of whack, and I could tell the difference the second I hit that epic pothole. Almost zero related tire wear.

And camber wear is usually minimal on NORMAL tires, but on softer compounds I've seen it cause some serious inner-edge balding lol.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:35 pm

well i need to get the alignment done anyways so ill be doin it haha