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Prothane LCA Bushing - Fitted - Problem ???

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:40 am
by nerox
i have bought brand new arms coz mine are soo rusty and got the prothane LCA bushing kit so i thought id put the prothane bushings on the new arms before they go on the car :thumbup:

burned out the horizontal bushing ... easiest thing to do.
managed to get the vertical bushing out fairly easy and cleaned up the id on the arm and cleaned up the metal sleeve bit too :thumbup:

pressed the horizontal prothanes in ... easy
managed to get the 'top' bit of the vertical in fairly easy.
pushed the metal sleeve through ok .... but.

when it comes to the 'bottom' of the vertical bushing i can press it in with a vice but as soon as i undo the vice it pops back out again and i just cant get it to stay in !!!

please help ...

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:34 am
by nerox
this is how far it will stay in on its own, it can be pressed further in with vice but as soon as vice un-wound it comes out to look like this.

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is this how it should sit or does it need to go in further ?

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:52 am
by Danteneon
That looks about right. It will be a little work to set the arm in place, but once you bolt it down everything should be fine.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:54 am
by nerox
excellent, thanks for your help!

i just wanted to check rather than try and put it all together and find out they aren't in properly :thumbup:

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:55 am
by Danteneon
No problem...that's why we are here :D

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:08 pm
by hansken_yo
Danteneon wrote:That looks about right. It will be a little work to set the arm in place, but once you bolt it down everything should be fine.
:withstupid: If you think that doesn't look right you'd be really worried if you got the energy :rofl:

Those look nice when they are all clean like that

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:08 pm
by r/tguy02
hansken_yo wrote:
Danteneon wrote:That looks about right. It will be a little work to set the arm in place, but once you bolt it down everything should be fine.
:withstupid: If you think that doesn't look right you'd be really worried if you got the energy :rofl:

Those look nice when they are all clean like that
that is if he got them in :rofl:

be glad you got the prothane

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:21 pm
by Danteneon
Having done both brands, the Prothane is a whole hell of a lot easier to work with.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:05 pm
by theTeejmiester
prothane FTW :rockon:

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:24 pm
by nerox
read on this forum a lot before i decided to go with the prothanes and noticed that everone said the ES were a pita, cost me less than $30 shipped to england iirc, they were from neverenough auto ... gonna be fitting them tomorrow, the old bolts are currently soaked in WD40 hoping they come off easier and i have a propane torch ready just incase :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:38 pm
by darthroush
You may want to try an actual penetrating spray (not what WD40 is) if you are worried about them being a pain to get out. :)

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:06 pm
by randomZERO
PB Blaster ftw! I soaked the bejessus out of everything like 3 times. Only ones that broke were the sway bar bolts. GL

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:00 pm
by occasional demons
I simply spread the "ears" for the vertical apart farther when sliding the LCA back into the crossmember. The bolt will draw it back into place with no problem.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:04 pm
by nerox
didn't have any problems with getting any of the bolts out, none of them rounded and none of them snapped. it did take me nearly 3 hours to get the LHS ball joint into the hole and then the sway bar ends didnt wanna go through the holes either .... 10 hours total and its all done :lol:

can someone show what thier prothane bushings look like when they're installed, mine are in fine and the ride is beautiful and smooth but it looks like the bottom bit has come out on one side, seems like it popped out the arm?

Does It Look Right?

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have also just noticed a rubbing squeaking noise from left side

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:21 pm
by nerox
any help please!?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:33 pm
by r/tguy02
if you got it sandwhiched together and installed, that bushing isnt going anywhere lol looks fine to me.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:59 pm
by nerox
it just seems to me that the bottom part of the bushing has fallen out!

maybe i will try and tighten them bolts up and see if it goes into place better

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:10 pm
by occasional demons
The bolts should be as tight as you can get them. They kind of hold the crossmember in place. You don't want it shifting around, or you will never hold an alignment. (Which would be the least of your worries.)

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:28 pm
by hansken_yo
The subframe bolts should be torqued to 180ft lbs or something like that iirc. Can someone confirm the torque specs on that?

If those bolts aren't tight enough it won't "tighten" things up either.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:59 pm
by nerox
i used a torque wrench and they were done up tight enough, but i did manage to get another turn and a half on the passenger side (drivers side for you americans) and the bushing is now a lot tighter to the arm. i hope this helps coz i had a squeeking noise over bumps since i fitted them and suspected it was the bushing rubbing

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:05 pm
by r/tguy02
did you use the supplied grease on the bushing when assembling? that could be part of your sqeak problem if its not lubed properly

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:26 pm
by nerox
i did use the prothane grease but found it very sticky and messy so i added some silicone lubricant spray when i pushed them together

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:27 pm
by r/tguy02
yeah i dunno why they'd squeak then

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:32 am
by nerox
i will see if i can throw some more grease onto them. its only on the one side which is strange, the other side is fine

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:37 pm
by nerox
ok i have greased up the bushing again and the problem is still there. it actually seems to only occur when i am turning (especially right) and also a bit over bumps but worst when turning

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:39 pm
by r/tguy02
how exactly do you know thats whats making the noise?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:00 pm
by nerox
well, to be honest ... i don't

however it started making the noise as soon as i put them bushings in . never happened before.

i think it could be a case of having to take the bushing out again and grease them up and put them back and see if it helps

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:09 pm
by nerox
sorted ... i think.

sprayed them all up with lithium white grease then moved them around a bit to spread the grease. seems to have taken the squeak away totally for now.

sprayed all the gearshift components with that grease too and its nice and smoooth :-)