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MOOG Suspension or BC's

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:19 am
by nerox
So i've deicded i've had enough with my lowering springs because the ride is awful and the drive to my work is littered with potholes which makes driving my gorgeous neon a terrible experience.

so ive been looking around and have found MOOG do a ready assembled strut / spring ...

like this

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Now i've got a good impression of MOOG so far, i have their trackrod ends and front and rear endlinks but has anyone experience of their suspension parts like these, id like to know before i spalsh the £ / $

there are other makes of ready made strut / springs such as Raybestos / Leacree but im not too sure about these lesser know makes

including delivery to UK and tax etc they are about $215 each which is about 3/4 of the price of BCs so do i just save the extra and get the BC coilovers or should i invest in some of these to go back to 'standard'

also i notice there are 2 variants of BC's ... for "regular neon" or for SRT (G-02 or G-03 i believe) but which is better ?
maybe the regular neon ones dont have rear sway bar fittings?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:16 pm
by nerox
never mind...

i went for the BC

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:01 pm
by ThatKevin
good choice!

raise it and keep it on 0 for a nice ride, or slammer that bitch and put it on 32 for some fun. :thumbup:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:03 pm
by nerox
haha

i always wondered ...

... if you lower it like a bitch and let the car down ... how would you get the jack out :rofl:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:54 pm
by ThatKevin
use the stock jack that comes in the trunk with the spare! only thing that I can find that still fits under my car

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:02 pm
by nerox
haha cool.

So the only question i asked that nobody ever asnwered ....

... just how comfortable and soft are they on softest setting?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:03 pm
by ThatKevin
no idea.. I'm curious myself

I put them on 32 the day they were installed, I've yet to change them :rofl:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:07 pm
by JeffM
They're about as soft as a sharp stick in the groin... :rofl:

BC's have very stiff springs; they are not floaty or soft in any respect. This, however, allows them a wide range of adjustment (think slammed) while keeping the tire safe, and also giving the car a 'sporty' feel.

I don't ever put my damping adjustments on the two extremes (0 and 32). I go back and forth from 2 front - 7 rear, to 15 front - 20 rear. The softer settings don't hurt as much as the higher settings, but it doesn't work miracles.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:17 pm
by nerox
uh-oh thats not really what i wanna hear.

I dont mind the bumps its the bottoming out on every tiny little lump in the road i hate with lowering springs

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:00 pm
by JeffM
You won't bottom out. The only time I bottomed out was when I had the tire tucked and the damping on 5. The springs are just stiffer than most, and the strut isn't perfectly matched to the neon chassis causing the ride to be more rough. Once you hit your first big bump you'll know what I mean. The feel of the suspension makes up for it in my eyes though. Who the hell needs a spine?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:11 pm
by nerox
Cool.

I went for the regular neon ones instead of the SRT ones coz I heard they were a bit softer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:37 pm
by JeffM
Uhhhh... as far as I'm aware, the BC coils are exactly the same for all 00-05 models...

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:00 pm
by ThatKevin
I'm pretty sure they're the same.. I know mine came off an srt4 but I doubt there's a difference.

I have mine low, not slammed, but lower than lowering springs go. I've yet to bottom out while driving on the roads

rough driveways/entrances are another story :rofl:

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:39 pm
by INVUJerry
You can always email them and ask for lighter spring rates than they come with.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 am
by nerox
Just had a call from BC-UK and they said there's been a mistake.

The BR coilovers are not available over here due to no demand and the only ones they have for the neon is the V1 kit.

I found no info on here about a V1 kit ... But ... Judging by the pictures they are the same as the Megans, with red top mounts

And theyre a bit cheaper,


Still worth getting based on previous comments regarding bottoming out, rear sway bar etc?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:33 pm
by ThatKevin
yes!

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:40 pm
by nerox
Cool,

I got them for £575 =$860 ish

The BC-BR were £675 = $1000 ish

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:45 pm
by Jerome Adams
I run mine on 8 in front and 5 inback for daily and set to 16/24 for auto-x. No science behind that, just what I do. Trying to figure out proper settings for auto-x and go from there

I also have full prothane bushing set and hotchkis sway set (rear bar on firm) so that stiffens things up as well.