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That is the Kaminari front for a SRT-4 and I was considering to maybe get this if I do the swap. Mind you I'd be getting the srt hood too.

or should I just go with the stock srt front bumper?

I'd say SRT front and hood unless you plan to do the WHOLE Kaminari kit. IMO just the Kaminari front without the sides and rear would look unfinished.

i agree

Thats what i was thinking too thanks!

Owning the Kaminari kit, if you just get any piece of the kit, it looks REALLY awkward as it hangs much lower than the factory body, so either get the whole kit, or steer clear of it.

thanks, i was just checking out your car and you're definitely right.

SILVER-ES wrote:I'd say SRT front and hood unless you plan to do the WHOLE Kaminari kit. IMO just the Kaminari front without the sides and rear would look unfinished.

[quote="lambostealth']Owning the Kaminari kit, if you just get any piece of the kit, it looks REALLY awkward as it hangs much lower than the factory body, so either get the whole kit, or steer clear of it.[/quote]

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SRT front owns.

This one is pretty cool... Looks like it matches up witht he srt sides very well...





But then again... it's fiberglass so i would say stick witht he stock srt...

TNK wrote:s

SRT front owns.

Stock sucks.

Seriously, if you ARE destined to change your bumper, don't change it to one that comes on another car, make your car unique as far as stock is concerned, it may look like someone elses car, but you are sure never to pull up next to one like it at a stop light.

^you make it sound like every other car on the road with the same body kit is unique. Keeping the body stock (or close to stock) is the way to go if you wanna be different nowadays. Unless u wanna get mixed in with the ricers, having a kit doesnt really impress people anymore. Even car show judges like the clean OEM look. Its all been done and overdone IMO. there are exceptions of course, but I speak in general. Sure a show car should have 'show', but I dont think a body kit should necessarily be a requirement to have a "nice car" or a car that is "unique". just my 2 cents

OB wrote:^you make it sound like every other car on the road with the same body kit is unique. Keeping the body stock (or close to stock) is the way to go if you wanna be different nowadays. Unless u wanna get mixed in with the ricers, having a kit doesnt really impress people anymore. Even car show judges like the clean OEM look. Its all been done and overdone IMO. there are exceptions of course, but I speak in general. Sure a show car should have 'show', but I dont think a body kit should necessarily be a requirement to have a "nice car" or a car that is "unique". just my 2 cents

Quoted for truth.

Is it just me or does someone seems a little "preachy" lately.

lambostealth wrote:Stock sucks.

Seriously, if you ARE destined to change your bumper, don't change it to one that comes on another car, make your car unique as far as stock is concerned, it may look like someone elses car, but you are sure never to pull up next to one like it at a stop light.

you took the words right out of my head

OB wrote:^you make it sound like every other car on the road with the same body kit is unique. Keeping the body stock (or close to stock) is the way to go if you wanna be different nowadays. Unless u wanna get mixed in with the ricers, having a kit doesnt really impress people anymore. Even car show judges like the clean OEM look. Its all been done and overdone IMO. there are exceptions of course, but I speak in general. Sure a show car should have 'show', but I dont think a body kit should necessarily be a requirement to have a "nice car" or a car that is "unique". just my 2 cents

You don't have to go down the ricer path to be different. You just need balls & ideas to do something no one will do or has done. It's simple, If it comes in a box It's not custom or unique unless you had it custom made

uhhh...

body kits don't do anything.. cept look preety..
which is the exact definition of rice...


If it doesn't make the car faster then it's automatically rice.



the question is. do you have to balls to admit you like rice? that you like doing stuff to you car that isn't performance related some of the times.

There is good rice and bad rice. but it's all rice. Maybe you should get that little piece of information stored away in your head and admit that your a ricer and you like the import world. Embrace your love for Rice, and scorn those who bring a bad name to it.

Besides, everyone knows a neon isn't anything but a rice rocket.
Thankfully for us though, it's Also American made, so we don't get the full slam of the Muscle side of the world, like say a civic would.


or you can say Screw it, and just keep your car stock... cause you don't have any money like mine... and if some trys to pin the rice tag on you..
you can say.... uhh dude, it's factory.

OB wrote:^you make it sound like every other car on the road with the same body kit is unique. Keeping the body stock (or close to stock) is the way to go if you wanna be different nowadays. Unless u wanna get mixed in with the ricers, having a kit doesnt really impress people anymore. Even car show judges like the clean OEM look. Its all been done and overdone IMO. there are exceptions of course, but I speak in general. Sure a show car should have 'show', but I dont think a body kit should necessarily be a requirement to have a "nice car" or a car that is "unique". just my 2 cents

agreed.

[quote="lambostealth']Seriously, if you ARE destined to change your bumper, don't change it to one that comes on another car, make your car unique as far as stock is concerned, it may look like someone elses car, but you are sure never to pull up next to one like it at a stop light.[/quote]

i have yet to see another car that looks even remotely like mine. anybody else seen one like mine? yeah, didnt think so.

TNK wrote:i have yet to see another car that looks even remotely like mine. anybody else seen one like mine? yeah, didnt think so.

lol..

i saw a blue SRT like 3 days ago and i was like! hey it's TNK in a joking way to my girlfriend..

so yhea, i've seen cars like yours around TNK.

and i've seen cars like mine around.






but seriously whats wrong with ricing your car? i don't understand why you all think it's such a bad title. As long as your do your mod cleanly and tastefully, there should be no name calling.'

I think for some reason Rice has been associated with so many bad things, people forgot about what Rice,per say, was in the first place.

so the blue SRT you saw had a CF hood, cudas, and the saem wheels as me? doubt it.

omg tnk.. those things are what make.. TNK Car... TNK Car..

but i've seen alot or E-Blue SXT, and that SRT model running around, and i always think of you.

Thats all i was saying. JESUS! not trying to upset you.

they look like yours, so what?
doesn't make yours any better or worse. just makes it yours.

i wasnt being upset, just trying to prove a point to lambostealth.

just becasue it has the same bumper as another car, doesnt mean it looks liek every other one of those cars.

ahhh, k...

sorry guys.. i'm upset right now, cause i got in a fight with my mother.

GRAHHHHHHHHHHH...


anywho...... Stock>Aftermarket.

02 r/t > Every other possible bumper IMO. Lambostealth or whom ever can have their own.. "ricer" opinions if they want..

That word still doesn't sound bad to me... so i'm not sure if what i just said had the exact meaning that i wanted..

TheNumberOneD wrote:If it doesn't make the car faster then it's automatically rice.

so bags are rice?? paint jobs are rice? rims are rice?? audio is rice??


rice is a TUNER CAR that has been totally done wrong. which basically is an eye soar of a car that has gone in so many directions that is just horrible. i can show pictures of what im talking about but we have all seen them

hmm..... I guess thats the definition you'd like to go by.

but yes.. all those things are rice, because simply.. they don't make the car go faster.


Now that said!

is rice all that bad anymore?

and yes... we have all seen the pictures of the Bad Rice....
and i've seen alot of good rice too.. You for example Caustic..

but i guess rice, in defintion is "wrong?" so.. if it's done right it's not rice... or am i going in the wrong direction?


cause from what i've heard, rice is anything that doesn't make the car go faster. Which some people i guess would consider wrong, The all american Muscle guys for example, or others who love customizing things, like body, paint, bags, ect.

But in essence that is Rice, which throws everyone that does those things into the same broad category. The thing is, the neon as an american car, is between the two points, and because of it's american muscle roots, hates rice, but loves it at the same time, therefore doesn't consider it rice?

does that make since?


clarify this all for me, cause i've heard it both ways...

^^ you got the definition of rice all wrong....

your car is rice.....srt-d.....if that's what your saying....you paid extra to get the srt look alike car, but it didn't make your car any faster

TheNumberOneD wrote: You for example Caustic..

when did caustic neon join this thread?

dan, rice is a bad thing. there is no good rice. there's a clean car, and theres rice. there is no such thing as good rice.

Heres a good way to judge how rice you are

[img][img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/s ... icket2.jpg[/img][/img]

But aside from that, i like the stock srt bumper better then the kaminari

TNK wrote:when did caustic neon join this thread?

dan, rice is a bad thing. there is no good rice. there's a clean car, and theres rice. there is no such thing as good rice.

exactly what i was trying to say

cuz im da shizzle, dizzle.

OB wrote:Keeping the body stock (or close to stock) is the way to go if you wanna be different nowadays.

Describes my situation perfectly.

^you're too far on the stock end though... you need rims and a drop...

midnight should just get a very nice set of coilovers and be done with it...at least i would be....car looks awesome factory imo, and it's already fast enough

Wow, I made this thread blow up, now everyone hates me.........

I try not to be preachy, however........

Sure, I'll be a man and step up, my Neon is riced out.

My name is Chris, and I'm a ricer.

Heres the way I see it......

What makes a head turner (in a good way) to the AVERAGE PERSON?

Wolf in sheeps clothing???

or

Sheep in wolves' clothing????

I for one, would not give a second look to a 98675943WHP stock appearing SRT in passing, I look, admire the person for buying a decent car, and go on with my day. Now, if I were to see a 220whp SRT in passing that was extravegant, I might tell a friend about it.

Case in point, in my hometown, there is a 00-02, with an SRT front end, lowered Neon. When I first saw it and noticed the 00-02 tails, lack of sideskirts, lack of rear bumper (it was stock), and no intercooler, I didn't pay it any more attention.

Another case in point, awhile back, someone posted picks of a rediculously beautiful BMW "M3", silver, dropped, gorgeous rims, etc., etc., that car got nothing but great reviews and responses here. What everyone didn't know until later, was that is was only a 330ci, with an aftermarket Hammann M3 bodykit. Riced out, slow (in BMW standards) BMW, even after everyone found out, they still applauded it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, why would one "upgrade" to a stock bumper? It's just not unique enough for me to buy, paint if needed, and install on my car. If I was going to go through the trouble to make my car stand out, I would make damn sure that I wouldn't encounter it at a show, or on the streets.

Do you think a judge would give that bumper points if you were parked next to a riced out Neon?

I've attended many shows, rice is what takes home trophies, rice is what the kiddies, mommies, and models want to take pictures with, not stock.

My other reasoning for ricing out my car before performance, is because, if you want a Neon to go fast, you turbo it, or swap the engine. I don't have upwards of $4000 laying around to swap, so my viable option is to turbo my 2L.
So, I spend lets conservatively say, $2000, to get my car turboed, will it run right every time I turn the key? Maybe, will it throw a code? Possibly, will it pass smog? Nope, will it grenade my oil pump? Perhaps, will I still be able to drive it daily? Who knows? Will it make a difference at shows if I have a stock SRT front bumper on my car with a turbo? probably not, because the judge will assume it is an SRT-4. Contrary to popular belief, judges don't know THAT much about every car at the show, they are like us, they like a brand, or a style of car (lowrider, mini's, full size trucks, bombs, imports), and thats what they know. If you go to a show here in the valley, you get one of two judge types, either a lowrider guy, or a minitruckin guy, they don't know much about Neons.

So, yes, I think "UPGRADING" to stock sucks as far as appearence mods, if you are going to go through the trouble in the first place, why not make it unique. Is mine a one off? Nope, not on the internet, however I've never seen one at a show with any of my "rice".

Sorry if I sound preachy, but, I'm really not an ass.

Someone said, "riced out kitted cars don't impress anyone anymore", tell that to the numerous onlookers as I pull into a parking lot, gas station, or just drive by. Or when I get people on the freeway, and surface streets getting next to my car to take pictures of it with thier camera, or phone, or just to tell me "nice car", or all of my trophies. OEM DOES NOT IMPRESS JUDGES or the general public, and in my experience, the only guys that are impressed with anything OEM (and by impressed I mean, they stop and stare), is the JDM crowd.

The same person said something about me thinking bodykit being a necessity for a nice car. No, I'm not diluted, or that much of a hard head. I know a Ferrari is a nice car, I know a Lamborghini is a nice car in stock form, a Neon? Not so much, just because I own one, doesnt mean I'm dillusional to think it is that nice of a car in SHOWROOM STOCK form.

I'd like to point out my opinion on rice (even though I already amitted to being a ricer, so don't get all bent out of shape), my opinion is that riced out cars wear unpainted bodykits, monstrosity spoilers (mine's pushing it, I know), and hanging fart cannons.

When I give these opinions, I'm mainly aiming my suggested points to the general non-enthusiast, the person that knows a nice car, but might not know every detail about it. Those are the people I'm talking about noticing your car in traffic at a light. If the random person that knows a nice car saw an SRT, and a Neon with an SRT front bumper at a light sitting across from them, they wouldn't differentiate the two. They would be the same cars in that persons mind.

Am I ATTEMPTING to offend anyone? Nope, this is a great forum, filled with many different opinions, this guy asked for an opinion, and I gave him one. Did I overstate my opinion? Perhaps. Do I remove my stance on stock sucks? Nope.

And for the record, I have acquired my turbo kit, my car rides on a COMPLETELY upgraded suspension, completely upgraded brakes, my headlights and tail lights are brighter and more efficient, my exhaust may not have made a huge power difference, but it is free-er flowing, my CAI may not have made that big of a difference, but it is free-er flowing, my hood is lighter, and blows cold air into my engine compartment that may show minimal gains in durability for my engine, and I'm pretty confident that the car has a lower coefficient of drag, so, why can't it look good also?

I guess bottom line is, I think these cars look good, in fact, theres not one car on this site that I recall seeing that I wouldn't mind seeing in person. However they may not all impress me equally. Thats what makes us individuals.

I love everyone.