03+ HID's ?

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 3:11 am

lambostealth wrote:So, what exactly is better about them if they aren't brighter????

And those do not look like 12000K......this is 10000K, and 12000K should be much dimmer.

Take a pic at night, yours look like the average Egay kit, they are all just about 8000K.

no bitch 12000k.........ha....1

Ryanm07 · Post by **Ryanm07** » Sun May 06, 2007 10:49 am

lambostealth wrote:So, what exactly is better about them if they aren't brighter????

And those do not look like 12000K......this is 10000K, and 12000K should be much dimmer.

Take a pic at night, yours look like the average Egay kit, they are all just about 8000K.

I have 10000k in my car now, and it looks NOTHING like that, nowhere near as blue/purple. Unless I got a mislabled box or something lol. Mine are blue when your looking into them, but when your in the car it doesnt look that bad. The signs almost glow with a bluish tint lol, but thats about it. I had Luminics blue halogen bulbs and i couldnt see a thing with them, so this was a HUGE upgrade for me. And as far as bad weather goes its really not bad at all. Better then stock halogens at least. This is all in my stock reflector housings so idk, this week when I get my projectors and H1 kit i'll see if anything changes. I'll try and get some pics for you guys tonight.

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 12:51 pm

Ryanm07 wrote:
lambostealth wrote:So, what exactly is better about them if they aren't brighter????

And those do not look like 12000K......this is 10000K, and 12000K should be much dimmer.

Take a pic at night, yours look like the average Egay kit, they are all just about 8000K.
I have 10000k in my car now, and it looks NOTHING like that, nowhere near as blue/purple. Unless I got a mislabled box or something lol. Mine are blue when your looking into them, but when your in the car it doesnt look that bad. The signs almost glow with a bluish tint lol, but thats about it. I had Luminics blue halogen bulbs and i couldnt see a thing with them, so this was a HUGE upgrade for me. And as far as bad weather goes its really not bad at all. Better then stock halogens at least. This is all in my stock reflector housings so idk, this week when I get my projectors and H1 kit i'll see if anything changes. I'll try and get some pics for you guys tonight.

ive been trying to get that point across that HIDs are better than stock no matter what the kelvin is!!!!....but they dont wanna hear that.....1

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Sun May 06, 2007 1:09 pm

Then you should have no issues with taking and posting pictures at night to prove the world wrong. Right?

Just sayin..

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 1:22 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Then you should have no issues with taking and posting pictures at night to prove the world wrong. Right?

Just sayin..

ok ill do it when i find some time!!!!!!....1

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Sun May 06, 2007 1:25 pm

Sounds good dude

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:23 pm

blackboi50 wrote:
Ryanm07 wrote:
lambostealth wrote:So, what exactly is better about them if they aren't brighter????

And those do not look like 12000K......this is 10000K, and 12000K should be much dimmer.

Take a pic at night, yours look like the average Egay kit, they are all just about 8000K.
I have 10000k in my car now, and it looks NOTHING like that, nowhere near as blue/purple. Unless I got a mislabled box or something lol. Mine are blue when your looking into them, but when your in the car it doesnt look that bad. The signs almost glow with a bluish tint lol, but thats about it. I had Luminics blue halogen bulbs and i couldnt see a thing with them, so this was a HUGE upgrade for me. And as far as bad weather goes its really not bad at all. Better then stock halogens at least. This is all in my stock reflector housings so idk, this week when I get my projectors and H1 kit i'll see if anything changes. I'll try and get some pics for you guys tonight.
ive been trying to get that point across that HIDs are better than stock no matter what the kelvin is!!!!....but they dont wanna hear that.....1

You are a complete and obvious douchebag. And, you are completely wrong.

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:44 pm

lambostealth wrote:
blackboi50 wrote:
Ryanm07 wrote: I have 10000k in my car now, and it looks NOTHING like that, nowhere near as blue/purple. Unless I got a mislabled box or something lol. Mine are blue when your looking into them, but when your in the car it doesnt look that bad. The signs almost glow with a bluish tint lol, but thats about it. I had Luminics blue halogen bulbs and i couldnt see a thing with them, so this was a HUGE upgrade for me. And as far as bad weather goes its really not bad at all. Better then stock halogens at least. This is all in my stock reflector housings so idk, this week when I get my projectors and H1 kit i'll see if anything changes. I'll try and get some pics for you guys tonight.
ive been trying to get that point across that HIDs are better than stock no matter what the kelvin is!!!!....but they dont wanna hear that.....1

You are a complete and obvious douchebag. And, you are completely wrong.

hehe!!!!!!.......1

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:50 pm

wow.......

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:55 pm

Chris. It's ok. Just be a man and admit that proven scientific facts are wrong and that some dude from the internet is right. I mean, the evidence shown thus far is overwhelmingly in his favor.

Gosh!

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:01 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Chris. It's ok. Just be a man and admit that proven scientific facts are wrong and that some dude from the internet is right. I mean, the evidence shown thus far is overwhelmingly in his favor.

Gosh!

thank you.......i thought all u guys were the same!!!! which is why i was just messing with him in the last couple of posts.......im going to get pics up as soon as i can!!!!!!....1

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:21 pm

sarcasm > blackboi

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:24 pm

TNK wrote:sarcasm > blackboi

oh damn......hahahaha

.....1

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:31 pm

hehe i am just waiting for the pics ... yes any HID has the potential to put out more light .. but when limited by a more narrow band of light (colored) a lot of that which appears brighter is lost .. esp under the right dirving conditions ... where i live .. 12000k HID lights turn to almost nothing when trying to drive in the rain and fog at night ... yes you can see they are on .. but after that, about the only thing you can actually 'see' is the occasional reflection off of a sign or a truck in front of you that you are about to hit...

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:32 pm

-Devil- wrote:hehe i am just waiting for the pics ... yes any HID has the potential to put out more light .. but when limited by a more narrow band of light (colored) a lot of that which appears brighter is lost .. esp under the right dirving conditions ... where i live .. 12000k HID lights turn to almost nothing when trying to drive in the rain and fog at night ... yes you can see they are on .. but after that, about the only thing you can actually 'see' is the occasional reflection off of a sign or a truck in front of you that you are about to hit...

yea my stock bulbs did that......but my HIDs dont........just hold up guys ill get pics up asap!!!!!!!......1

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:48 pm

I'm not argueing that yours may be brighter than halogens, what I am argueing is that manufacturers of eghey kits like yours don't have a clue what color is what kelvin, all they do is sell a kit, and based on the color they deem in thier own eyes is whatever kelvin they feel it should be.

If your lights were TRULY 12000K, your lights would look worse than the ones I posted.

But, in the pic you posted, your lights appear to actually be closer to 6000K, even though the guy that sold them to you said they were 12000K.

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:57 pm

lambostealth wrote:I'm not argueing that yours may be brighter than halogens, what I am argueing is that manufacturers of eghey kits like yours don't have a clue what color is what kelvin, all they do is sell a kit, and based on the color they deem in thier own eyes is whatever kelvin they feel it should be.

If your lights were TRULY 12000K, your lights would look worse than the ones I posted.

But, in the pic you posted, your lights appear to actually be closer to 6000K, even though the guy that sold them to you said they were 12000K.

nah they are purple/blue.......but i see the road as white.......i bought these from a store here in ATL for 200 so im really happy with the results......ive seen the ebay kits and they arent that bad neither.......i need to put some batteries in my digi cam and take pics so yall just hold on!!!!....1

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:01 pm

Well, you see, HID's use an electronic arc inside the bulb instead of a filament, and an electronic arc is naturally bluish/purple to look at, but the metallic halide salts inside the capsule produce the color you see on the road. So if you see white on the ground, then your lights are DEFINATELY not 12000K, more like 4300-6000K. It's not a bad thing, in fact, it's a VERY good thing! Better performance.

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:07 pm

lambostealth wrote:Well, you see, HID's use an electronic arc inside the bulb instead of a filament, and an electronic arc is naturally bluish/purple to look at, but the metallic halide salts inside the capsule produce the color you see on the road. So if you see white on the ground, then your lights are DEFINATELY not 12000K, more like 4300-6000K. It's not a bad thing, in fact, it's a VERY good thing! Better performance.

dawg i have no idea what your talking about but.....yea its mostly white just a lil bit of color on the ground.........i thought it was just because my eyes were getting used to it!!!!!*sigh* i dunno!!!!....1

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:44 pm

he is telling the truth ... if you see white ... then it isn't 12000k ...

as for having the tint ... even the 4300k ones will have a slight blue / purple tint to it when looking from the very edges ...

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:55 pm

Exactly, if you have seen a late model Cadillac Escalade, or Lincoln Navigator with HID's, but no projectors, they look blue, but they are 4300K, which is actually pure white.

It's cool that you may not understand, but, everyone learns the things they know one way or another, I wasn't born knowing what I know, I had to read about it...........in books.

Just try not to be so hard headed, there may be someone on the interweb that knows more about a particular item than you, it's not a bad thing to learn.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:53 pm

Yay for learning!

Demonik · Post by **Demonik** » Sun May 06, 2007 11:15 pm

glasswars wrote:Yay for learning!

i think we can all learn something here... http://youtube.com/watch?v=eJll0hM7p24

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Mon May 07, 2007 5:38 am

lambostealth wrote:Exactly, if you have seen a late model Cadillac Escalade, or Lincoln Navigator with HID's, but no projectors, they look blue, but they are 4300K, which is actually pure white.

It's cool that you may not understand, but, everyone learns the things they know one way or another, I wasn't born knowing what I know, I had to read about it...........in books.

Just try not to be so hard headed, there may be someone on the interweb that knows more about a particular item than you, it's not a bad thing to learn.

iight bro.......i appreciate everything.....but im just letting you know that they sold me a 12000k kit so ive been telling everyone thats what i have.......these get a lot more attention than 10000k or 6000k because of the purple/blue tint.........i dont recognize the color anymore but other people do!!!!!! Thats all.....but im always up for learning stuff man........preciate ya!!!!....1

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:25 am

Let's try to keep the name-calling to a minimum, guys, so we can keep this thread open.

Back on topic, I also have a 6000k HID conversion kit in my car and I love the output. Granted, there's a bit of glare there, but I don't think it's that bad - Not much worse than my ricer blue bulbs I used to have. I've had them installed for about 6 months now (and I do a lot of night driving since I work thirds) and I've only had two people flash their high beams at me.

So to answer the original question - Yes, HIDs will work in your '03 headlights if you buy the correct conversion kit. You'll also produce glare that some people find annoying (some more than others) unless you buy aftermarket projector headlights or fab up your own.

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:11 am

blackboi50 wrote:
lambostealth wrote:Exactly, if you have seen a late model Cadillac Escalade, or Lincoln Navigator with HID's, but no projectors, they look blue, but they are 4300K, which is actually pure white.

It's cool that you may not understand, but, everyone learns the things they know one way or another, I wasn't born knowing what I know, I had to read about it...........in books.

Just try not to be so hard headed, there may be someone on the interweb that knows more about a particular item than you, it's not a bad thing to learn.
iight bro.......i appreciate everything.....but im just letting you know that they sold me a 12000k kit so ive been telling everyone thats what i have.......these get a lot more attention than 10000k or 6000k because of the purple/blue tint.........i dont recognize the color anymore but other people do!!!!!! Thats all.....but im always up for learning stuff man........preciate ya!!!!....1

It's all good, I just wanted to point out that the pics you showed (and it wasn't even dark yet) were much brighter than the one I posted, and the one I posted is a trrue 10,000K rating, a 12,000K rating would be even dimmer, it would look like you have Blacklights for headlights. So, because yours are so white and bright, it's probably because the manufacturer mis-rated them. Which is VERY common in the aftermarket HID world. Your kit looks much more 6000K'ish to me. And since the 4300K is the best performing (3400lumens), your 6000K lights (2000lumens), would be brighter than halogens.

But, not ALL HID is better than halogens (stocks), the lumens (light output), on a factory halogen bulb, is rated right around 1200lumens, a 10,000K kit (pictured above), is only rated at 1100lumens, so even the 10,000k would still be dimmer than factory halogens, IF the mfr rated them properly (with a light meter, and in a housing), which they don't.

So the highest kelvin you could go, without being dimmer than stock is 8000K, but you only get 1400lumens, so, you will percieve that the light is MUCH brighter. But since the halogen housing will splash all kinds of unuseable light, above your line of sight (the road on the horizon), you only actually get about 3/4 of that ouptut where you need it, so, with an 8000K kit, you would only see about 1050lumens while driving.

If you WANT to learn the truth about HID's, and not be the one that says "HIDeeeez are mad tyte son, I don care what color they are, all of dem der litez iz brighter dan stocks, boyeeeeee".......I would be glad to help, as I have learned a lot in the last 7 years that I have been toying with HID.

Have fun, and post up those night pics anyways, and make sure you put the camera on something sturdy while taking night pics, flash off, and turn your timer on, so that way you don't shake the camera when you snap the picture, that way the pics come out clear, and not blurry.

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Mon May 07, 2007 12:47 pm

what i have notice is that most egay kits say they produce 12000k but thats only when they are turned on and the starters kick in once they warm up they all get around the 6000-8000k mark, me and my buddy order the same kits his 12000k mine the 8000k and his start purple but once warmed they turn the same brightness and color as mine.

2003silverneonsxt · Post by **2003silverneonsxt** » Mon May 07, 2007 2:23 pm

aight just for giggles..heres mine..

these are 4300K McCollugh HIDS and Retrofitted Lexus Yellow Fogs

fogs only

_______
(before lexus fogs)
in fog:

old pic, fogs aimed to low :

60trim · Post by **60trim** » Tue May 08, 2007 2:20 am

off topic...how much did your fogs cost...back on topic...nice kit man.

blackboi50 · Post by **blackboi50** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:38 am

KrackstaR wrote:what i have notice is that most egay kits say they produce 12000k but thats only when they are turned on and the starters kick in once they warm up they all get around the 6000-8000k mark, me and my buddy order the same kits his 12000k mine the 8000k and his start purple but once warmed they turn the same brightness and color as mine.

True true!!!! but i bought mine from a local aftermarket store.........mines do the exact opposite.......they turn on white then "morph" into a slight purple and blue color............1

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