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noob fibergalss Q

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:35 pm
by cbjones26
why do ppl use felt when they are doing fiber glass? is felt better to use then the fiberglass cloth i have been using?

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:29 pm
by kornholio788
Fleece is better than felt. It stretches nicely over a shape to give you nice curves.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:36 pm
by cbjones26
ok, fleece, felt, why do they use that vs using the fiberglass cloth that u can buy for like$4 in walmart for 8 Sq Ft? so if i was gonna say fiberglass some interior stuff or what ever should i use fleece? vs using the fiberglass cloth i am using on my bumper?

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:44 pm
by kornholio788
You can use both. The fleece is nicer as you can stretch it very tight over say a speaker ring to get you that nice shape. I usually use the fleece for the shape then go to matting myself.

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:49 pm
by vielecustoms
those speaker pods look amazing!

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:03 pm
by mikeb818
kornholio788 wrote:You can use both. The fleece is nicer as you can stretch it very tight over say a speaker ring to get you that nice shape. I usually use the fleece for the shape then go to matting myself.

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i would hate to be your passenger :rofl:

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:24 pm
by kornholio788
mikeb818 wrote:
kornholio788 wrote:You can use both. The fleece is nicer as you can stretch it very tight over say a speaker ring to get you that nice shape. I usually use the fleece for the shape then go to matting myself.

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i would hate to be your passenger :rofl:
Of the few people I have had back there. No one hit their head on them. Although I am sure if I played with the air ride some I could get them to haha.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:35 pm
by mikeb818
hhahaha i would just hate having the speakers in my ears. but fuck it. haha have that so no one sits back there and less weight=faster!! :rofl:

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:38 pm
by kornholio788
mikeb818 wrote:hhahaha i would just hate having the speakers in my ears. but fuck it. haha have that so no one sits back there and less weight=faster!! :rofl:
I RARELY have rear seat passengers in my neon. And for the "back seat pleasures" well if we plan on that we don't take my neon. We take one of our other 3 cars lol. Much more comfy. I think I will be building a big air tank set up back there anyway so no passengers will even be able to sit back there sooner or later.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:52 pm
by mikeb818
kornholio788 wrote:
mikeb818 wrote:hhahaha i would just hate having the speakers in my ears. but fuck it. haha have that so no one sits back there and less weight=faster!! :rofl:
I RARELY have rear seat passengers in my neon. And for the "back seat pleasures" well if we plan on that we don't take my neon. We take one of our other 3 cars lol. Much more comfy. I think I will be building a big air tank set up back there anyway so no passengers will even be able to sit back there sooner or later.
haha yeah for my :quotes: back seat pleasures :quotes: i take the grand cherokee.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:30 pm
by bstc00
hahaha. I use my Liberty :rofl:

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:48 pm
by occasional demons
bstc00 wrote:hahaha. I use my Liberty :rofl:
For liberating?

Set them free!

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:13 am
by nineball
the fabric used is just to get the shape of the item you are building. you coat it with a layer of resin and it will harden once dry and give you a solid surface to start laying down the fiberglass.

one common mistake is thinking the fabric used adds to the strength of the structure but it does not. it takes mat or cloth to build up layers and strength. fleece is probably the most used fabric but it is far from the best to use. fleece is kind of thick and it soaks up a ton of resin, which is quite expensive. i have found that lycra is a much better material to use - it is thinner, lighter, it stretches 1000x better than fleece and once dry it is as smooth as glass (less work later). you want a material that is VERY stretchy to allow you to pull it tight and avoid having any ripples or waves, which will only make you have to do more work to smooth them out.

here are some shots showing the fabric i use:

base

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starting to cover it

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fully covered. you can see how thin this stuff is once fully stretched - you can see right through it

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it is now covered in a layer of resin to make it hard and give me a surface to apply the mat to

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:17 am
by cbjones26
ooo i got ya now, thank you for all your input!

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:54 am
by TheRandom1
Dan, I'd forgotten about your 'glass skillz... care to help me out with a sub enclosure project I'm considering?

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:28 am
by kornholio788
Nineball put into words what I was too lazy to type out. And I will have to try that type of fabric. Thanks for the suggestion. THat is one thing i have always hated about the fleece is it is thick and soaks up a ton of resin.


And I am sure we could work something out dude.

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:29 am
by TheRandom1
Sending you a PM now...