Problems with Red cars ... white bubbles developing in clear

Dasstrum · Post by **Dasstrum** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:49 am

I am posting this to try and get more people that are having problems with their flame red paint. I have around 30 other members so far that have responded saying they too are getting little white bubbles showing up in different spots on their cars. The most common areas are in front of the sunroof, under the black strip that separates the window and door, and on the hood.

Out of everyone that I have rallied with the same problem... most (almost all) are all 05 Flame Red SRT-4's. I am posting this to see if this problem is isolated to these cars, or other years and non srt owners are having the same problem.

If you are having this problem, I urge you to check out this page to see if we can get this problem resolved.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f25/ver ... ng-498656/

Thanks

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:34 am

That sucks. I'm glad you are trying to get information on this...however it will take hundreds (probably at least 500) of documented complaints for for Chrysler to issue any kind of recall or take action.

And the thing about paint is: it's very very hard to prove in court whether the paint was original. 85% of the cars on the road today have paintwork of some kind. Paint issues are probably the hardest thing to get resolved by a factory recall.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:16 pm

The problem is prolly more in the clear, or how the clear is reacting to the red base coat. This is really bad with repainted areas. My dad's Dakota had the clear peel off with in a year and a half after being repaired. (It is also red.) The factory clear also has bubbled/peeled, but not to the extent of the rework.

The DCX approved vendor re work on my XJ is also bubbling/peeling. It is Deep Amethyst PC. It only got rework due to warrantied rust through. Not from paint issues. The later repaint I had done is still holding up as far as bubbling. (Different shop)

This problem is not specific to Blaze Red, but might just be more prevalent on neons. I have seen it happen all most of the colors/different models.

It has not made me a huge fan of base coat/clear coat. I'll take a little oxidation of the old school paint over the newer paint any day. But EPA has pretty much nixed that notion. Manufacturers are stuck with EPA guidelines like the rest of us. You can bitch all you want, but it won't bring back the good paint, fuel, or oil.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:04 pm

Interesting

My flame red '00 had this and I just wrote it off as the car being old... I didn't really notice it on my SRT. I wonder if I should file a complaint about it anyway

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:07 pm

I have an 04 flame red SE...and don't have the problem.

I even removed the side moldings and have no problem with the paint under them either...

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:38 pm

Pablodragon wrote:I have an 04 flame red SE...and don't have the problem.

:nudge: "05 Flame Red"

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:41 am

iThane wrote:
Pablodragon wrote:I have an 04 flame red SE...and don't have the problem.
:nudge: "05 Flame Red"

Huh?

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:00 am

I was wondering wtf he meant too...

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:32 am

I think he's getting at the op saying that all seem to be red 05 srt's having this problem.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:50 am

The thing to keep in mind is that the 05 is now 6 years old. The Neon was built under the "old" Chrysler corp. Getting the "new" Chrysler to go back and cover something like this is unlikely to happen.

Just saying.

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:51 am

oh, sorry...there were 2 threads up here yesterday... guess the other one got locked..

the other one said it was happening on some 04 Flame Red cars also...not jut SRT's

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:22 pm

heydockyle wrote:I think he's getting at the op saying that all seem to be red 05 srt's having this problem.

But then he said some 04s too and those were the only years for red on an SRT, however neons had it back to '00 and my '00 indeed had this problem too. The clear was all fucked up.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:01 pm

The only area that I had this problem with the stock paint was under the side moldings.

gglaeser12 · Post by **gglaeser12** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:09 pm

Seems to be mostly happening on the 05's however there are a few identified 04's and 03's as well. On another forum I have heard of some 00 SXT's with it too.

Yeah 6 year old car is pushing it to get a paint job, but getting some sort of resolution and getting them to admit some sort of guilt for their Flame Red paint jobs on Neons in general is the goal.

Would you buy a new car if the dealer told you "by the way this car will need to be repainted in 5 years" hellz no. It's really just the point that there is a flaw and a resolution would be great.

I seem to be very lucky with my local dealer. The service manager is all for pushing to get a total re-paint. Now will Dodge authorize it? Probably not, but maybe I can get my affected areas fixed.

Andpto · Post by **Andpto** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:00 am

i had this bubbling problem on my 2000 flame red plymouth neon too. But i sold it

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:26 am

post resurrection:
My 02 RT is doing this also....

red2.4srt · Post by **red2.4srt** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:21 am

My 04 SRT is doing this around the sunroof, at the window trim and also on the PS rear quarter above the taillight as well. I noticed it in the spring after I let the car sit all winter... Kinda frustrating after you take such good care of the vehicle.