SRT-4 Engine Swap

Doing a SRT-4 Motor swap into your Neon, maybe even a 2.4... have questions about it, what you'll need or what issues you'll run into? Answers can be found in here.
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Post by occasional demons » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:12 pm

If you are scrapping the other car, why reinstall? I would keep/sell the spare K frame. The only difference is a nutsert installed into the SRT crossmember. The crossmember also fits all years. Tho different part #s are listed for various MY's, they all fit.


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Post by sirvaliant_98 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:57 pm

ok cuz i know i missed something. i got an 02 r/t with srt swap. I got a body harness i want to put in it. i read in earlier posts that in 2000 models you had to swap out all the door stuff also. is this still true swapping into an 02?
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Post by SlvrACR » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:39 am

My 01 has RT door wiring not SRT
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Post by Adionik » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:00 pm

Anyone know the order in which the ABS hooks up? We need to know which way the lines mount up to the ABS block. I believe there are 4 lines that need to be connected.
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Post by Danteneon » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:14 pm

There should be 6 holes total. This is what I can tell in the parts catolog. Looking at the block where the lines go in...

The top left hole (would be the rear most one) goes to the M/C rear port, and the upper right (front) hole goes to the M/C front port.

The 4 holes along the bottom, starting with the left (rear) hole and going towards the right (front)...

Right Front

Left Rear

Right Rear

Left Front

Hope that makes sense.
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Post by Adionik » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:23 pm

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There should be 6 holes total. This is what I can tell in the parts catolog. Looking at the block where the lines go in...

The top left hole (would be the rear most one) goes to the M/C rear port, and the upper right (front) hole goes to the M/C front port.

The 4 holes along the bottom, starting with the left (rear) hole and going towards the right (front)...

Right Front

Left Rear

Right Rear

Left Front

Hope that makes sense.
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Post by Danteneon » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:27 pm

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Post by Adionik » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:36 am

Well, I had to swap over all my brake lines from the SRT to the 02 SXT. I don't know who said they would bolt right up, but as far as MY car...there was no way.
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Post by hansken_yo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:14 am

I didn't know it was an 02. that does make things different and more challenging than the straight swap to an 03+ which is what I thought you were runnin.
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:43 am

Just read this.

It's all good. Now we have an idea of where they go. I was assuming he was bending his own lines, because I imagine the factory lines will only go on one way...
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Post by nate-00neon » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:05 pm

Adionik wrote:Well, I had to swap over all my brake lines from the SRT to the 02 SXT. I don't know who said they would bolt right up, but as far as MY car...there was no way.
why did you have to swap the lines over?

u goin from non-ABS to ABS or what?

cuz i used the ones from my car.

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Post by Adionik » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:49 pm

hansken_yo wrote:I didn't know it was an 02. that does make things different and more challenging than the straight swap to an 03+ which is what I thought you were runnin.
Yeah, 03 SRT into 02 SXT.

I wonder what other little snags i'm going to run into. It should be noted that the brake lines are needed coming from a non-abs car.
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Post by dan___92 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:30 am

2003 to 2005 - Harness 1, 2 - Dash harness does not need to be swapped and no pins have to be moved. The only thing major thing missing in the dash harness is the electrical connector for the boost gauge backlight (see above). In 2003 they changed the electrical system around and all Neons came with the NVLD so the body harness does not need to be swapped either nor does the trunk lid harness. The only real major reason as to wanting to swap Harness 3, 4, and 5 would be if the Neon you're swapping into did not have power options and you would like to add them but if you are wanting to do that you'd also have to swap out things like the door harnesses...
So just double checking, if I get all 5 harnesses from an 03+ everything should go together properly? Just like using all SRT harnesses?

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Post by Adionik » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:00 pm

Does anyone know how to get the e-brake cable to extend a little longer? I forgot how I did it when I did the brake swap. But I bolt up the e-brake and obviously it's too short. I messed with it to try and get it longer but nopeeee
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Post by hansken_yo » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:33 pm

Adionik wrote:Does anyone know how to get the e-brake cable to extend a little longer? I forgot how I did it when I did the brake swap. But I bolt up the e-brake and obviously it's too short. I messed with it to try and get it longer but nopeeee
Did you bolt everything else into place before connecting it? IIRC if the lines were loose on the body you'll have that extra room you need.
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Post by Adionik » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:10 pm

No, they get hung up through a push lock insert type deal...

There is some sort of way to free up slack on the handle
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Post by sidepipe87 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:09 pm

You have to pull up on the single output cable of the e-brake with your fingers and slide a punch or something thin and strong through the hole in the e-brake mechanism. This allows slack on the individual cables so you can take them off. I used a small punch.

I took this pic from the disc brake swap how-to in the chassis section



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Post by Adionik » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:52 pm

sidepipe87 wrote:You have to pull up on the single output cable of the e-brake with your fingers and slide a punch or something thin and strong through the hole in the e-brake mechanism. This allows slack on the individual cables so you can take them off. I used a small punch.

I took this pic from the disc brake swap how-to in the chassis section



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I'm confused because the ebrake looks de-pressed there...but it says to pull it up.
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Post by sidepipe87 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:30 pm

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I saw the pic, but I'm pretty sure when I did it, it works. You have to pull on that little equalizer piece with the two holes in it for the cables to lock into and I think it'll make that piece of metal that is sticking up in front of the punch move down, allowing you to stick the punch through to give you the room to attach the cables.

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Post by hansken_yo » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:03 pm

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Post by Adionik » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:17 pm

Almost chopped my fucking finger off, but I got it. Thanks again.
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Post by sirvaliant_98 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:56 pm

Sorry if I missed this, but got some questions. First I have an 02 with srt swap. I was told the motor/tranny came from an 03. Is there anyway for me to find this out forsure? Also can I use any year srt pcm and just have it reflashed if its used? I don't know the vin# the current pcm is programmed to. Is that something the dealer can find out?
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Post by Adionik » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:02 pm

I see no mention of needing the dash harness if you're swapping into an 02, but my AC/blower are not working at all.

Sunroof, windows and locks work beautifully.

But my driver side blinker still won't come on and my rear reverse lights are stuck on too. Haven't seen any of these symptoms on this forum
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Post by sidepipe87 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:09 pm

reverse light switch is on the MTX somewhere, check to see if it's ok.
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Post by nate-00neon » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:08 am

has anyone ran into a problem with the brake switch? i think mine needs to be reajusted but idk how to do that.

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Post by 718sxt.4 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:32 pm

hey im doin the swap but using the 31th trans anyone know if i could still use the srt axles even though its for a manual car
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Post by NOS2006 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:39 pm

I'm putting an '04 SRT engine in my '04 R/T. The stock radiators are different, but I'm going to purchase a Godspeed BFMIC to go with it. Do I need to buy an SRT radiator too, or will the R/T radiator be sufficient?
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Post by sirvaliant_98 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:47 pm

is the srt4 hood required with the swap? just wondering cuz i want to keep my r/t front but get rid of the huge gap between the grille and hood.
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Post by Neon4Life » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:49 pm

no need for the srt hood.
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Post by thump3r » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:02 pm

been reading over this post for 3 months now and now in the middle of the swap into a 2000

does any one have pics of the fire wall of a srt -4. i take it there the same as a 01 + fire wall to mount the master cylinder for the clutch.

i work at a wrecking yard so im going to cut the portion out that i need from another neon or use it as a template at least.

also for the brakes. will i need the portioning valve or anything since i swapping over from drums to disc in the rear.

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