Wire Tuck Cont. and Cleaning. (56k warning)

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Wire Tuck Cont. and Cleaning. (56k warning)

Post by TheNumberOneD » Thu May 17, 2007 12:26 pm

I know some of you don't like all the blue i have, so instead of getting rid of it, i just hid alot of the wires to the best of my ability.

Before Before (this was even too much for me... lol)
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After

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I hid that set of wires that ran over the throttle body under the throttle body, and the the throttle body cable got hid under the manifold.

I also put some krylon on the washer fluid cap, and removed some of the unessesary split loom.

I plan on keeping most of whats left, the only plans i have so far is to get some black split loom, to replace the A/C line under the radiator hose, and maybe the catch can hoses will get covered in the black split loom as well.

Besides that, a ground kit is on my to-do list, so the split loom on those ground wires will be replaced be either black 4or8awg or blue 4or8awg wires to clean it up a bit more.



You guys have no idea how important your imput is on how i customize my vehicle, and i was out of line to call out Andrew the other day, so i'm making this an Apology Thread as well.

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Oh, i didn't sleep at all last night, so i can't tell if those pictures are blurry... or i'm just not seeing right, but i'll get some better pictures later whenever i get the black split loom to clean up a few more things.


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May 21st 2007
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Post by kc2005ptgt » Thu May 17, 2007 12:30 pm

Now THAT looks good.


I still do NOT see how that intake stays warm. The only way to see if it does anything is to get an Air Intake Temp Gauge. It looks original, that is for sure, I am almost positive noone has even done it before, so you get a bonus for that.

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Post by TheNumberOneD » Thu May 17, 2007 12:44 pm

hey, bro it's allright, i've just been under stress and all that good jazz latley, and ontop of everything i'm drugged up on alergie medicine and unable to go to sleep.

so.... :rofl:

I should get a temp gauge... but do they make any for intake? the only one i know about is the exhaust, and that reads from like 100"F -400"F and thats way hotter than the intake will ever get..

linky!?

i would seriously invest in a good temp reader, if it'll read lower temps and is and easy install.


Obviously your right, it's probably gonna be getting some hot air, compared to the fender CAI, but i think the functionality of its not whats important, but rather the way its implemented.

and if the originality of the work i've done is overminded by the "ugly" smurf blue that everyones hating on, then obviously i gotta make changes.

anywho, i'm about to go hit up the pep-boys and get some black split loom, and maybe hit the car wash, cause shes filithy!
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Post by Cabbs » Thu May 17, 2007 1:46 pm

Are you boosted? Or is that just a really complicated intake you came up with?

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Post by biggrobb1995 » Thu May 17, 2007 2:09 pm

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Post by TheNumberOneD » Thu May 17, 2007 2:30 pm

no, i'm not boosted....

Does it look like i am?
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lol, sorry... turbos are preety easily recongnizable, and there definatley isn't one in that picture.

it's not complicated at all...

now i'm confused, did i post the wrong pictures?
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Post by Cabbs » Thu May 17, 2007 2:55 pm

I know turbo's are easily recognizeable, but the turbo sits behind the motor, so it wouldn't be visible in these pics even if you did have one.

:shock: I see how it's set up now, you just have a pipe coming from the fenderwell.

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Post by biggrobb1995 » Thu May 17, 2007 3:12 pm

why not just go with a CAI? Just wondering. :scratch:
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Post by J-Villa » Thu May 17, 2007 3:31 pm

he said b4 b/c of the hood scope
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Post by 03sxt » Thu May 17, 2007 3:37 pm

Looks much better even though I'm still not a fan of the blue, but it's much more tolerable now. ;) :thumbup:

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Post by TheNumberOneD » Thu May 17, 2007 3:48 pm

03sxt wrote:Looks much better even though I'm still not a fan of the blue, but it's much more tolerable now. ;) :thumbup:

heh! thanks... i guess... :D

Car came with an srt-4 hood, so i just thought i'd put a functional well desinged oem part to use.

Positives-
-Dont have to worry about the Weater, Elements can't touch it were it is.
-One of a kind
-Looks good
-Sounds good
-Good Use of the Functional SRT scoop.


Negative
-I havn't fabbed up the firewall yet, so it's probably getting some heated air, but not enough to hurt the performance of the car, atleast not a noticable amount. (better than stock however)
-I always have to explain the positives.
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Post by Wenuden » Thu May 17, 2007 7:22 pm

If the hood has functional ram air, why do you have that useless tube coming from the fenderwell? with the size of that filter, you're not pulling much air at all with that tube, and it makes the engine bay look cluttered to me. I know my opinion doesn't matter much, but the weight of the tube (looks like stainless steel, but i'm sure it's polished aluminum) is costing you more than the air it's not pulling in is giving.


the pics look clear to me, and the engine is cleaner than mine was at the dealership when i bought it new.

WTF is that small filter on the passenger side of the engine bay for? relocated PCV?

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Post by lambostealth » Thu May 17, 2007 7:49 pm

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Post by TheNumberOneD » Thu May 17, 2007 8:54 pm

Wenuden wrote:If the hood has functional ram air, why do you have that useless tube coming from the fenderwell? with the size of that filter, you're not pulling much air at all with that tube, and it makes the engine bay look cluttered to me. I know my opinion doesn't matter much, but the weight of the tube (looks like stainless steel, but i'm sure it's polished aluminum) is costing you more than the air it's not pulling in is giving.


the pics look clear to me, and the engine is cleaner than mine was at the dealership when i bought it new.

WTF is that small filter on the passenger side of the engine bay for? relocated PCV?

sure the hood is "functional ram air", but i'd rather it not be the only source of fresh air onto the filter.

Filter is the size it is, cause half of it, (you can't see it in the picture) is wrapped up in a heat blanket, to try and keep some of that hot air warmed by the exaust off.)

Actually you can't tell at all uless you take a good close look, and it just adds to the funtionality of this custom intake system.


Clutured sure... but i don't see how thats a bad thing.
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Post by racer12306 » Thu May 17, 2007 10:29 pm

we have an older version of this EGT gauge on our race car. it reads down low enough for what you are looking at. but it is a little pricey at $200 for what you are trying to do

http://www.ifamilysoftware.com/8515.html

and i must say, much better looking with less blue. :thumbup:

but just be prepared, because everytime you post a pic of the under hood your gonna have to explain yourself. but im sure you are starting to see the pattern with that.
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Post by INVUJerry » Thu May 17, 2007 10:40 pm

It looks weird, I seriously thought you had teh tubro, but the filter was facing the wrong way.
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Post by OverDrive418 » Fri May 18, 2007 8:21 am

Thats a pretty interesting intake concept you came up with, never seen or heard of anyone doing that before, props to you :thumbup: I would think if you had a heat sheild on the one side of the filter then it shouldn't be a problem especially without a turbo. (At first I thought it was turboed too with some new type of filter!) At any rate it get a good WTF? reaction form people (and maybe judges...)

Engine bay looks a lot cleaner and organized. Great job on all!
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Post by TheNumberOneD » Fri May 18, 2007 11:30 am

racer12306 wrote:we have an older version of this EGT gauge on our race car. it reads down low enough for what you are looking at. but it is a little pricey at $200 for what you are trying to do

http://www.ifamilysoftware.com/8515.html

and i must say, much better looking with less blue. :thumbup:

but just be prepared, because everytime you post a pic of the under hood your gonna have to explain yourself. but im sure you are starting to see the pattern with that.
hmmm, if that comes with two probes, i could easily use one as an exhaust temp reader.

For "two" gauges thats the expected price of a brand new unit, if not cheap, but i'm a ricer, and i like the round cobalt kind. lol


Thanks for the link though, maybe i can get it for my birthday, since i'll only be turning 20 on the 27th this month.


OverDrive418 wrote:Thats a pretty interesting intake concept you came up with, never seen or heard of anyone doing that before, props to you :thumbup: I would think if you had a heat sheild on the one side of the filter then it shouldn't be a problem especially without a turbo. (At first I thought it was turboed too with some new type of filter!) At any rate it get a good WTF? reaction form people (and maybe judges...)

Engine bay looks a lot cleaner and organized. Great job on all!
thanks, but i've gotten used to explaining it, even to locals who don't understand how an "srt" doesn't have a turbo... :banghead:
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Post by JeremyJ » Fri May 18, 2007 2:34 pm

You could totally sell that on Ebay. Just call it the "ClusterFuck Special" and it would sell by the thousands.

Less blue is a good thing.
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Post by TheNumberOneD » Fri May 18, 2007 4:00 pm

its not an easy install, so people wouldn't want to buy it

and if they planned on getting a professional to install it, they get ass rapes cause you have to modify 4 oem parts


-You have to modifie the battery tray (beat the hell out of it with a mallet)
-Re-run all the power and ground lines, or just have it lay on the battery, but i wanted to clean it up, so i just re-routed them.
-relocate collant overflow bottle
-Hack the shit out of the snorkle to adapt it to the extensions.



Plus, there looking being charged 50$ worth of piping and couples, and another 40ish$ for a good filter.


And if they don't have the srt hood on a n/a engine it wont do shit for them.


So no.. This is my car only type deal, less they feal like doing 3-4 hours worth of work themselves and they have a n/a with a srt hood.

then i'll just charge em 200$ with instructions lol.


Besides why would i want to give people the instruction, piping, and tools necessary to copy me?

I'm not a buisness, originality is priceless, but if you want me setup go ahead, good luck.
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Post by JeremyJ » Fri May 18, 2007 9:22 pm

Yeah...I was just...joking...and stuff.
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Post by 702Neon » Fri May 18, 2007 9:56 pm

honnestly bro, i think you should just drop that heat shield back in (that you have in the first pic) and call it a deal.
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Post by TheNumberOneD » Sat May 19, 2007 12:25 am

702Neon wrote:honnestly bro, i think you should just drop that heat shield back in (that you have in the first pic) and call it a deal.
nah :thumbup:
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Post by JRM » Sat May 19, 2007 12:32 am

702Neon wrote:honnestly bro, i think you should just drop that heat shield back in (that you have in the first pic) and call it a deal.
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Post by 03blackrt » Sat May 19, 2007 12:34 am

:withstupid:

You probley tripled your pressure losses by adding all that pipe. Not to mention the SRT hood scoop is not very good either. And all that hot exhaust heated air is poo-poo.


But like I said before, at least you followed through with your plans.

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Post by TheNumberOneD » Sat May 19, 2007 3:18 am

i have been having low idles latley, if i am in fact loosing pressure that could account for me sitting around 600 when ever i have to stop at a light or something.

I know its not the electrical, cause i just upgraded all my grounds to 4awg from the DIY on the how-too. (cost me 13$ from cartoys, lol)


i might put a filter on the end of the thottle body to test out that theory.



30,000 mile mark a few days ago too.

Oil, Tranny, and Collant flush and fill next week.

:) gonna run sea-foam through the fuel as well, so i'll be working on the engine alot.

With the materials i have, i could easily make a fender CAI, but then i'll have to relocate my battery again... *sigh*

plans are to get a new strut bar, perhaps i'll look into get one of the wider ones to fill up all the space back there.
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Post by INVUJerry » Sat May 19, 2007 9:09 pm

You wouldn't have to relocate your battery again, leave it sitting the way it is! I really like the old heat shield intake, you still have that? Can I get it off of you?
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Post by TheNumberOneD » Sun May 20, 2007 4:34 am

invujerry wrote:You wouldn't have to relocate your battery again, leave it sitting the way it is! I really like the old heat shield intake, you still have that? Can I get it off of you?
nope i actually sold it allready, but thanks anyays.

The old intake didn't have near the same sound as the new one, and they preform exactly the same.

The new one however looks, sounds, and is much more unique
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Post by TheNumberOneD » Mon May 21, 2007 5:10 pm

*updated pictres on the bottom of the first post * May 21st, 2007

What i did,

-Got rid of most of what was left of the blue split loom, cept the one that runs inbetween the valve cover and battery.

I kept that small amount cause it blends in well.


everything else that was blue is now black.
-Black Split loom on the tubes too and from the catch can
-Black Split loom on the radiator Overflow hose.
-Black Split loom on the main A/C line that runs under the radiator hose.
-Black Split loom on the wires comming from the fuse box.
-Black Split loom on the wires that i hid under the throttle body


Oh yhea, i did the DIY Ground kit with Blue 4gauge wire, and gold o-rings.

I bought a cheap brass post connector, but when i get the new battery i plan on getting gold connectors, just not gonna bother right now.

Fixed the idle problem by tightening all the connections between the filter and the throttle body. Must have had a vacuum leak cause i didn't have them tight enough.





The only thing i want to do at this point in time is a get a Vibrant Type V polished Strut Bar and a polished Oil Cap.
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