Updated car pics (5/8/06*)

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:28 am

sxtgrl wrote:WHATEVER TO THE HATERS.

I like your car OB. Needs more black in my opinion ;p Although i know you dont exactly have extra money to put into everything at once at the moment.

I must be blind, is the lip slanted? I cant even tell.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Wed May 10, 2006 7:40 am

dinetuner wrote:OB's car=FTL... dude im gonna be the first to step up and say.. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU WILLINGLY/SOBERLY FUCKING UP YOUR CAR?!?!?!? thats a badass color nice neon... the lip i cant even tell its thier so to me i dont care.. but why the fuck did you "Try" to do those spacers to your hood.. that looks fuckin ghey.. looks like shit.. ok im done lol ive had more than a couple beers and i dotn give a shit but yeah your car is fukin hawt other than that shey hood... i guess when my hood smahesd on my windshield and looked fuuked up it actully was a mod.. damn im a fuckin dumbass too bad you dont have enough mods to support your ghey hood

car looks pretty good, but i think it would look better w/o those spacers... for the same reasons others have posted.

the lip does look a little to low, but not bad... the angle is whats taking away from it, but if you like it... its your car.

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:30 am

Has anyone ever looked at ANY cars from the 60's drag era? This is not some mysterious new concept. Its been DONE a million times. Its been expanded on a million times.
At least the guy tried to SOMETHING to improve performance instead of bolting on shit he bought in the Pep-Boys chrome isle or some stupid as neon lites.
I don't care if it only reduced the temp. in his engine bay by a 100th of a degree. If it did, its an improvement.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:59 am

Its still under warranty and you got crappy insurance payments... Good job getting rid of the ugly stockiness of the stock Neon. Now if it was paid off and it wasn't udner warranty, then I would of taken a completely different route.

OB · Post by OB » Wed May 10, 2006 11:17 am

raul-01 wrote:Its still under warranty and you got crappy insurance payments... Good job getting rid of the ugly stockiness of the stock Neon. Now if it was paid off and it wasn't udner warranty, then I would of taken a completely different route.

im absolutly puzzled by what u just said

grambo- thanks bro im glad someone on here is interested in mods that arent just done to look good and get everyone elses approval. the spacers work and its proven, and to be honest I think a lot of you are talkin shit about em cuz youve probably never seen/heard of them. or they just dont "look" right. haha oh well

loleb- yeah im broke but im tryin my best to get things done here and there. thanks for the support bud

can we get back on topic now?

caustic neon · Post by **caustic neon** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:42 am

there is a faq on the outher .org about removing the rubber strip at the bottom of the wiper cowl on 1st gens, By removing the strip it alows air to flow up between the hood and the wiper cowl cooling your under hood temps. They say it adds like 1 hp. so i get the point of the spacers, im just not feeling the way they look. love the lip kit though.

DannyBoy · Post by **DannyBoy** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:56 am

I don't like it that much, but keep doing your thing.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Wed May 10, 2006 12:56 pm

Looks aiight to me. Even though I hate the exhaust with a passion I think that the car looks good now get on Grambo's ass about those springs and you are set.

grambo · Post by **grambo** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:09 pm

Thanks Wish....lets see....My house is being painted all week into this weekend, little league practice tonight, around 1.5 weeks behind in school, OT at work, Russian River on Saturday till Sunday, Monday is CubScouts....nope no time...sorry OB

OB · Post by OB » Wed May 10, 2006 2:51 pm

mang youre too busy! its alright tho, cuz like i said, springs aint gonna do me any good till i can get my tokico hp's anyways, so take your time.

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btw i noticed a few of u said something about me needing a rear lip or fascia, and i thought id let everyone know that i plan to go with an srt rear fascia in the future (rolled of course) due to its lower stance and cleaner appearance. thats not for a long time tho, unless someone wants to trade for my stocker straight up (haha yeah right)!

I need 300 bucks to drop her!

dinetuner · Post by **dinetuner** » Wed May 10, 2006 8:44 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:
dinetuner wrote:
03sxt wrote:

You can't tell he's been drinking, can ya'?
...hooods stil fhey
YOU'RE fuckin gay, drunk or not.

JdM TiLt J()!!!!

sorry had to put something up lol and may i add that your car looks good cept the exhuast and hood but its my opinion and its your car you put the picture up so you should be able to take the heat... the lip is starting to grow on me.. kinda like what dodge should done to it stock the neon front bumper is to "curvy"... and your matuarity is really showing through resorting to personal attacks i would be expecting that from someone years younger than you

Dan: im on house arrest my clothes aint coming off at home with the possibility of my family coming home

i hope you dinit intend to diss OB qouting that retard...lmfao

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:
sxtgrl wrote:WHATEVER TO THE HATERS.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:38 am

grambo wrote:Thanks Wish....lets see....My house is being painted all week into this weekend, little league practice tonight, around 1.5 weeks behind in school, OT at work, Russian River on Saturday till Sunday, Monday is CubScouts....nope no time...sorry OB

excuses are like a$$holes... everyone has em and they all smell like shit.

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu May 11, 2006 12:25 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:mang youre too busy! its alright tho, cuz like i said, springs aint gonna do me any good till i can get my tokico hp's anyways, so take your time.

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btw i noticed a few of u said something about me needing a rear lip or fascia, and i thought id let everyone know that i plan to go with an srt rear fascia in the future (rolled of course) due to its lower stance and cleaner appearance. thats not for a long time tho, unless someone wants to trade for my stocker straight up (haha yeah right)!

I need 300 bucks to drop her!

Life changes when you have a kid and a wife.......They are fun but they also take away that extra 16 hours a day you had to do what ever you want

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu May 11, 2006 12:30 pm

Wisher2 wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:mang youre too busy! its alright tho, cuz like i said, springs aint gonna do me any good till i can get my tokico hp's anyways, so take your time.

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btw i noticed a few of u said something about me needing a rear lip or fascia, and i thought id let everyone know that i plan to go with an srt rear fascia in the future (rolled of course) due to its lower stance and cleaner appearance. thats not for a long time tho, unless someone wants to trade for my stocker straight up (haha yeah right)!

I need 300 bucks to drop her!
Life changes when you have a kid and a wife.......They are fun but they also take away that extra 16 hours a day you had to do what ever you want

and school, and work, and other family functions, and 2gn time, and the list goes on..........

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:01 pm

Wisher2 wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:mang youre too busy! its alright tho, cuz like i said, springs aint gonna do me any good till i can get my tokico hp's anyways, so take your time.

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btw i noticed a few of u said something about me needing a rear lip or fascia, and i thought id let everyone know that i plan to go with an srt rear fascia in the future (rolled of course) due to its lower stance and cleaner appearance. thats not for a long time tho, unless someone wants to trade for my stocker straight up (haha yeah right)!

I need 300 bucks to drop her!
Life changes when you have a kid and a wife.......They are fun but they also take away that extra 16 hours a day you had to do what ever you want

16 hours?

Id love to have that kind of free time... and i have no wife or kids. lol

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:23 pm

Mopar00Neon wrote:
Wisher2 wrote:
orangeblastsxt wrote:mang youre too busy! its alright tho, cuz like i said, springs aint gonna do me any good till i can get my tokico hp's anyways, so take your time.

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btw i noticed a few of u said something about me needing a rear lip or fascia, and i thought id let everyone know that i plan to go with an srt rear fascia in the future (rolled of course) due to its lower stance and cleaner appearance. thats not for a long time tho, unless someone wants to trade for my stocker straight up (haha yeah right)!

I need 300 bucks to drop her!
Life changes when you have a kid and a wife.......They are fun but they also take away that extra 16 hours a day you had to do what ever you want
16 hours? Id love to have that kind of free time... and i have no wife or kids. lol

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If 8 hours of work was all that was scheduled for a day, damn I'd be bored.

Wisher, I get your point though.....the "16 hours" just was to much to pass on.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:42 pm

orangeblastsxt wrote:yeah i like it the way it is, at first one side was a bit higher than the other, and i was gonna straighten that out AND get rid of the angle, but ive grown to like it and decided to get the front even but keep the angle. from the side it looks really agressive, and aerodynamically speaking the little fin on the side is now creating more downforce than it would flat, almost like canards would. I think of things from both a performance and a looks POV, while a lot of people are all about whether its done "by the book" and looks like everyone elses. but if u think it looks like shit thats cool, i think a lot of cars on here look pretty poopy myself

FYI, i never said it looks liek shit. i love the lip kit, love the color. and if anyones car on here looks liek shit, it's my skunk. i beat the hell out of that poor thing...... your car looks great, all we offered was some constructuive criticism.

EDIT- hadnt read all the haters posts... damn harsh guys... damn harsh

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:17 pm

It was drunken madness.

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:23 pm

Off topic:

In all seriousness, from a neutral perspective, it almost looks like some specfic people go out of their way to attack OB. I see it nonstop.

Other people here say way more insane stuff then OB, yet when heaven forbid, he says or does something that other people see as wrong, i can always count on there being posts right afterwards pointing it out.

It's just something ive seemed to pick up over the months ive lurked, and then posted here. 99.9% of 2gn is pretty chill, and im not attacking anyone, i just thought id share what i felt. He has a passion for what he does, just like everybody else here, and he flat out has a nice car.

Wow, he decided to do something different, lol. I see people going to home depot and picking up pipes for their intake for their neon, do i see people insulting them? Nope. I see them being applauded for thinking outside the box, and trying to spend less money. Whatever.

Drunkeness is not a excuse. And underage drunkeness is even less of one.

Horses for coures.

Sorry to hijack your thread OB.

OB · Post by OB » Thu May 11, 2006 11:29 pm

^thanks bro i appreciate your words, and youre not the first person to notice this, several others have personally asked me the same thing. it sucks but i guess im fun to pick on, prob cuz of my short temper (that ive improved on a lot!) and my tendency to (over)react to just about any negative comment. oh well i like my car and i love everything about autos and the scene, so im just gonna keep tryin to let this negativity go. lets get back on topic this thread has a lot of BS in it, its supposed to be for feedback and id like to hear more (criticism is fine, but id prefer nice things of course!!!) thanks

dinetuner · Post by **dinetuner** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:57 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Off topic:

In all seriousness, from a neutral perspective, it almost looks like some specfic people go out of their way to attack OB. I see it nonstop.

Other people here say way more insane stuff then OB, yet when heaven forbid, he says or does something that other people see as wrong, i can always count on there being posts right afterwards pointing it out.

It's just something ive seemed to pick up over the months ive lurked, and then posted here. 99.9% of 2gn is pretty chill, and im not attacking anyone, i just thought id share what i felt. He has a passion for what he does, just like everybody else here, and he flat out has a nice car.

Wow, he decided to do something different, lol. I see people going to home depot and picking up pipes for their intake for their neon, do i see people insulting them? Nope. I see them being applauded for thinking outside the box, and trying to spend less money. Whatever.

Drunkeness is not a excuse. And underage drunkeness is even less of one.

Horses for coures.

Sorry to hijack your thread OB.

who used "underage drukeness" as an excuse i made a statement in case it was illegable.. there is an diffrence to putting washers in your hood latches to "give it a cowl hood effect" and put your lip at an angle to give it "downforce" then to building a CAI the CAI actully does something the lip aint giving no downforce...except maybe give the front end a little more wieght.. honestly what did the washers do? besides makeing the hood look screwed up and the washers adding wieght

to the "attacking" he comes on here crying that the org is full of bullys.. which yeah the people on the other org speak there minds..then the next time he is getting into a huge fight calling names and calling pretty much everyone a dumbass for buying"ebay special" CAI or other things when he himself never bought one when if i recall dinit even have a CAI.. so what gave him a right to speak up we gave our opinions and he gave his wats thier to fight about..mind us many of us have been in the neon scene for years when he just got on..and then he wants to fight about it bieng a newcomer?

he then gives out some not so good advice or very thorough advice and needs talk about things he knows about and then has the balls to self label himself the "Master Neon Tuner"... please ive been around neons since i was 14 and i still woudnt consider myself "master Neon tuner"...

2gn.org is chill and laid back... but when you comeon full of your self trying to pass yourself off as something else talking out of your ass we dont stand that we just havent run off OB becuase hes like the annoying little brother than we kind of have hope for its like a glimmer.. i wont deny i dig his car just the exhuast and hood.. and he shoulda kept his mouth shut about the lip i like it till i read its "angled" for downforce...please

ob its not your an easy target we say the things we say becuase we want you to see the "light" we get on your ass about nitrous becuase your feeding other n00bs with misinformation and we want you to know about everything...we get on your ass kind of becuase we care in a dumb stupid way that most of us prolly dont relieze..its like a framing or any other construction crew they pick on you becuase we like you if we dinit like you we would have run you off..like sxtgurl but if you get on our nerves too much.. .. unless its right around the corner and as the 2gn.org dumbass i just dont see it coming..lol and as i said earlyier if you cant take the heat dont post any pics...

Wisher2 · Post by **Wisher2** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:59 pm

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If 8 hours of work was all that was scheduled for a day, damn I'd be bored.

Wisher, I get your point though.....the "16 hours" just was to much to pass on.

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Actually I have unmedicated ADHD so 16 hours goes by like 16 minutes and you notice at the end of the day that you havent accomplished anything that you set out to do. I start alot of projects in a day and dont finish them for months.Juggling a marriage and child and work and spare time now is so exhausting that I can actually sleep at nite.....or like my wife say's "What dime are ju goink to crash baby"......

P.S.
Dinetuner..........you've been around neons since you were 14.....What a lucky thing for us we have such an experienced neon owner. You arent even old enough to have consensual sex but yet you are a 3 year experienced god of the neon scene...

I think I was helping my Dad work on his Chevelle before you were even a thought.

Look......I myself understand you frustration with OB because I myself have gotten into it with him on a few occations but Tact would help your point if you had any Tact but then again you are a 17 year old puppy with Anger Management problems and what sounds like a tendancy for alchohol abuse.

I know it is irritating to see some of OB's " I Know All ABout Everything POSTS" but it is equally as annoying to read alot of the garbage you write as well

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:21 am

**back to OB's car**

car looks real good, but it would look a lot better if you straightened out the lip and fixed the hood. i understand that the hood has a purpose, but don't you think you should leave that for the track?
to me, modding our car's is trial and error... we see what works and what doesn't. a lot of people don't like my blitz front cause they think its played out, and maybe it is, but i'm loving it. i guess what i'm trying to say is that you should do what works for you... but, you also need to keep an open mind. you don't always have to have the last word... your short temper has improved a lot.

if we say something negative, just leave it at that. there is no need to explain.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:31 am

Car looks good! Minus the hood tilt.

But I think I said that.

OB · Post by OB » Fri May 12, 2006 11:19 am

dbl- well said, thanks.

dinetuner- for the record, the lip wasnt angled to create downforce, it ended up at an angle cuz we installed it in the dark, and the next day i saw it and ended up kinda liking it. me and my friend took it off and straightened it out a bit, and when doing that we realized that to make it "straight" we would have to force it to stay that way. its almost like my front end is meant to have the lip sit at a slight tilt. all i said afterwards was that the angle would probably create MORE downforce than the straight one (if any). personally id think that anything that causes drag and lowers the cars distance to the ground (where the airflow is) would create SOME amount of downforce. even 1% would be an improvement.

everyone else, thanks for the comments, and i know you guys dont like the spacers

, but you have to give me credit for a new idea (on neons that is) and id like for some of you to try to look at things with an open mind and not just judge it based on whether it "looks" good.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:36 am

look at my old car (the skunk) now look at my new car... that is a truly fine example of "seeing the light" i have schanged my ways, thanks to the oh-so-great-2gn.org

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:40 am

I still think they should make a mild cowl induction hood for the Neons... At least I'd like to see one.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:47 am

they did! there was a company that made one
but i think they went tits up. it was the same people that made the power rear window kits!

marakka · Post by **marakka** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:30 pm

I know I"m late to jump in here.... But I figured I might as well. I owned a car audio and accessories shop for 2 years. I've seen a lot of garbage come and go... to include the infamous subwoofer install in a KFC box.....

That said...

OB, you paid a good deal of money to get that front lip and to have it painted. Its intended to go on straight and about 90% of people who look at it and notice the tilt will be like "Did you hit something?". The fact that you left it crooked..... thats what it is crooked, not tilted or slanted or whatever you want to call it..... shows that either your car is messed up or the lip is messed up. You screwed up when you installed it and never went back to fix it. Its obviously too low in the front middle as you can see a gap between the bumper and the lip. You had to oversompensate on the sides to get it to stay on. If you honestly think its creating downforce...... maybe you should think again my friend. I do 100+ mph daily on the autobahn and have enough sense to know that a flimsy lip like that wouldn't do crapola for me.

The hood..... Not only is it not functional on our cars, but it is highly dangerous. What if you have a water hose blow? Perhaps an oil leak? Where is that going to go? Having the hood raised like that doesn't suck air in. It allows the air entering the front grill area to exit over the windshield instead of under the car. Now if you look under your hood you'll notice there isn't much room for circulation of air. The air flowing under the car without JDM hood risers will suck the air from the engine compartment. With hood risers on our car I think you would create a bit of lift to the front end. I'm not a rocket scientist.... and that has been proven...... but I think that high velocity air OVER the hood as opposed to the lower velocity air UNDER the hood trying to escape..... well... you see where I'm headed with that one. I've got a CF RD turbo hood that has 2 openings in the front that are behind a riser. Honestly..... I'm scared that if I blow a coolant hose I'll be blinded by the coolant and crash.... and my holes are in front of the engine. Iunno... maybe I take things a little more seriously.

Just because you are trying something different doesn't mean its cool. You don't see Neons running around with aluminum double stacked wings..... if someone did they'd be different right? I think you've got the right idea.... just need to put it into effect. Drop the hood back down, get the lip straigtened out and focus on what you have planned for the rear and the suspension. I'm really diggin that color. Don't like it on SRT's.... but its aight on a reg neon. I think you should get an SRT rear bumper and do a CBD diffuser on it. Someone already said the CF hood and trunk..... that shit would be hawt. Good luck mang.

OB · Post by OB » Fri May 12, 2006 2:35 pm

the spacers have been tested to pull air IN to the bay, same effect as a REVERSE hood scoop. youre wrong about the air going thru the front and out the top, at speed the wind passing over the hood is pulled into the gap and spread into the engine bay. when the car is not moving (or slowly moving) the spacers allow hot air to escape from the hood (ive personally put my hand over it after a hard drive and a considerable amount of heat escapes when the car is still).

as far as the lip goes, youre partially correct, it was installed crooked, and that was fixed when i redid it. the bolt holes line up where the lip is at now, while if i wanted it to be a 1/2" higher (the "correct" way to do it) then id prob have to redrill the holes and come up with some way to get the front to stay where it is. i dunno maybe the lip warped over time or something, but it is what it is, and honestly it doesnt look bad i dont know why some of you are so picky.

btw how might anyone know whether or not something makes downforce/is aerodynamic just by looking at it? you guys talk like you know but do you really? anyone wind tunnel this lip before? didnt think so. and its not flimsy at all its quite firm. what do u think aerodynamic kits are made of fuckin steel? carbon fiber is pretty flimsy yet race teams make entire shells out of them and have success.