Street Truck

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Thu May 06, 2021 10:41 am

It comes as a pre-bled assembly from the factory and wasn't designed to be pieced together. I get what you're saying, though. It could theoretically be replaced, one piece at a time, but I'm not experienced with bleeding clutch hydraulics. I'd rather not deal with it at this point, but that may change if this new setup blows out on me.

While I was waiting for new parts, I did a thing.

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Black is kind of like hitting the easy button when it comes to wheel finishes. I really contemplated a weird color, but I couldn't bring myself to do it this time. I've never had a "murdered out" vehicle before and I wanted to see how this would look. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied. Appliance epoxy remains my go-to black wheel paint. It goes on thick and shiny, is easy to work with, and looks great afterward. It's also pretty tough in my experience. This should hold me over until I can afford some proper aftermarket rims for the truck.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by Midnight_Rider » Thu May 06, 2021 9:11 pm

Yes. Me likey.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Mon May 10, 2021 2:21 am

Looks "killer" :P Very nice truck. There is a black dakota same gen as yours, rolling around my town with those same headlights. But its in very poor condition with lots of body damage. I will try to snap a picture when I see it again.

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Mon May 10, 2021 11:35 am

These headlights don't look terrible, but they function like garbage. They leak and are turning yellow. I already have some new corner lenses for it. I still need to get some of the actual headlight housings before I can switch them over.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Mon May 10, 2021 4:51 pm

Yikes, that is not good. I think they look great. I know my blk housings on the neon are horrible too at night.

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Fri May 14, 2021 11:27 am

My new Luk master/slave setup showed up from a new vendor. It's the same fucking unit as the Dorman. Again. This means RockAuto didn't send me the wrong part after all. This was a fear I had; that multiple manufacturers changed over to the same part for cost cutting measures or whatever. I think I'm just going to install it and hope that it works longer than a few weeks this time. I did manage to find a Mopar unit online, but it's pretty expensive and I don't want to deal with more returns right now. I bookmarked the page for future reference. If this unit fails, I'm going to fork out the cash for the Mopar parts and be done with it. For now I'm just going to wing it with the inferior replacement. Wish me luck.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by occasional demons » Fri May 14, 2021 10:04 pm

Good luck Man!

I guess using a Dorman replacement with a heavier than stock pressure plate is out of the question. If I use my spare Stratus clutch in my '01, I'll be looking for Mopar parts for sure, or be sourcing some DSM parts for the slave.

Yep, I have a NIB V6 Stratus modular clutch assy sitting on the shelf in my garage. The pedal effort is a fair amount more than the neon/PT clutch. Everytime I get into my Impreza after driving the '99 neon for a while, I think the clutch is broken, because it takes zero effort to push it in.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Sat May 15, 2021 1:51 am

No luck with the Luk :P Hope it holds up well this time around. A part like that shouldn't just fail that fast.

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Mon May 17, 2021 10:55 am

I put it all back together and we're good to go again. For a little while, at least. I washed the truck and took it for a drive to the exhaust shop, where I scheduled an appointment to get some new pipes installed next weekend. I snapped some pics in an empty lot on the way home.

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On the way, I also noticed a new feature for the truck. I call it the Smoke Screen. After idling for a minute or two, it emits a nice puff of smoke from the tailpipe once I start moving again. Apparently, I need new valve seals. Add that to the list. The heads have to come off now, which is going to be a pretty large job. Especially since its a SOHC motor. There are three timing chains that need to be aligned upon reassembly and it looks a bit daunting. I'm not looking forward to it. Assuming it doesn't get much worse, I'll probably save that job for the fall, so I can enjoy the truck more this summer. I really wish I had the funds for a Hemi swap right now. That would be so much more rewarding than fixing this 4.7.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by occasional demons » Mon May 17, 2021 9:58 pm

SRT swap it. :P


(The obligatory neon site plug) :roll:
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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Tue May 18, 2021 4:53 pm

There's a semi-local guy with an SRT swapped second gen Dakota. I've never seen it in person, but he's been at some Neon meets here in WA. It only runs 14s, which is disappointing, but I think it's still stock turbo. The truck is pretty beat, so it's not much of a looker. Cool project, though.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Thu May 20, 2021 10:46 am

The truck settled down another half inch in the front and was resting on the tall bump stops that came on the control arms. I swapped them out with some pancake style bump stops that I had left over from another project. Here's the truck with the suspension hanging and the tall stops. You can see that there's not a lot of room here.

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Here it is with the shorter bump stops.

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And here it is lowered onto the ground with the shorter stops. There's not a ton of suspension travel in the front.

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Definitely helped the ride in the front. I don't know why the bump stop mounts are so tall on the control arms. Probably to keep the tires off of the fenders. I've contemplated cutting the mounts off and remounting the taller bump stops directly to the arm, but this was a whole lot less work. It'll do for now.

Next up: exhaust time!
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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Mon May 24, 2021 11:00 am

The exhaust on the truck has two cats; one at the end of each manifold, 2" pipes that lead to a restrictive Y pipe, and then a 2.5" pipe that leads back to a huge muffler. This past weekend I had the 2.5" section replaced with 3" pipe, a Magnaflow muffler, and a turndown. It sounds amazing. It pops and burbles like an SRT-4 then screams V8 noises at full throttle. It sounds so good. In the next couple of days, I'm getting the cats and 2" Y pipe replaced with 2.5" straight pipes and a high flow 3" Y pipe. Then the exhaust will be complete.

Magnaflows tend to sound deep and mild when cruising, but then really loud and aggressive when pushed. This is the perfect mix for me and so far, it's turned out great. I'm going to attempt a video once the rest of the pipes are installed.

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Tue May 25, 2021 12:20 pm

I ordered new seats for the truck. The ones in there sit up too high and they're flat as a board. I wanted something sporty, so I ordered a set of Corbeau Evolutions. Black with red stitching. Unfortunately they aren't in stock, so I'm going to have to wait about six weeks to get them, but they will be worth the wait.

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The only thing I don't like about them is the fact that it says "Corbeau" twice on the seat. I asked about deleting the second logo and changing the stitches to black, but that would make them special order and take up to sixteen weeks! I'm too impatient for that, so I decided to stick with the default setup. They'll look great either way and they'll do a much better job of holding me in place. Plus, Corbeau actually carries bolt-in rails for my truck, which makes the install a breeze. No fabrication needed. I'm excited to get these in.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:17 am

I had the rest of the exhaust redone this past weekend. Off the manifolds, it had two cats, 2" pipes, and a super restrictive Y pipe. I had it all replaced with 2.5" pipes and a high flow Y pipe that runs to the 3" section that was installed a couple of weeks ago. Not a single section of the OEM exhaust remains. What a difference it makes. I felt a huge seat of the pants gain with this new setup. It feels really good. Not only that but the sound is amazing. There's nothing like the scream of a V8 at full throttle. Like I said earlier, the Magnaflow keeps things bearable while putting around, which prevents the truck from being obnoxious to drive regularly. I really like how it turned out.

For the motor, I think I have a solution for the time being. It has developed a few leaks and it smokes after idling for more than a minute, meaning the valve seals are going out. Seeing as how it has 190K on it, it's about time for a rebuild, but I'm not too keen on rebuilding this thing. I'd really like to do a Hemi swap, but that's going to cost me around ten grand and I just can't afford that right now. I think a good compromise would be to swap in a 2008+ 4.7. In 2008, they re-engineered a bunch of the components and bumped the power from 235 to 310, and the torque from 295 to 335. That's a really healthy bump in power for what is essentially the same engine. I can find complete engines with low miles, for less than three grand online.

All that I'm going to have to do to make it work is extend the injector harnesses by a few inches, purchase a TB adaptor (they switched to DBW in '08), and have the exhaust rerouted to the manifolds, since the new manifolds exit at a different angle. That's it. That's some pretty minor fab work, really. With this exhaust, a proper intake, and a tune, this thing will feel pretty quick for what it is. All for relatively cheap, too. It won't be a Hemi, but I think it will feel pretty good considering the smaller investment.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by occasional demons » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:20 pm

I don't recall what year my buddie's truck was, but it had the 4.7. It had over 200,000 miles, and the only reason he let it go was due to the PCM connector corroding, destroying the harness and PCM. It would have been more than the truck was worth to have someone replace the harness/PCM. He isn't mechanically inclined...

I guess whatever year it was, this issue is specific to that year.

He never complained about power, he was pretty happy with it, not being a Hemi.

I think a radiator and water pump are the only other things that he had to replace. None of the other 4.7 issues that you hear about. Considering about all he does is have the oil changed at the recommended mileage, the 4.7 can't be too bad.

Like anything else, severe neglect and abuse will destroy anything.

Can the Magnum PCM be tuned?

Obviously you won't make those numbers without at least the same tune as the factory 4.7.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:59 am

SCT used to make a tuner for this year of truck, but they don't anymore. I think the only option now is the canned tunes from Superchips and Diablo. I was planning to pick up a Diablo handheld to install their 91 octane tune and adjust the speedometer calibration for my shorter tires. I hope it plays nice with the 2008+ engine. I don't see why not, since the factory computer probably advances the timing and other small tricks to get the increased power out of newer setups. There are a few guys running the newer 4.7 in their older Dakotas and Durangos on the stock PCM, without issue. They still claim to feel a big increase in power.

Also, I got a better image of the exhaust work. It's really nice. You can see the 2.5" primaries that go through a fabricated Y pipe and into the 3" rear section. I ordered a cell phone mount that should be here tomorrow. I will hopefully have an in-car video of the sound to share soon.

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Re: Street Truck

Post by JeremyJ » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:32 am

Let me attempt a video share here.

https://youtu.be/w2uEzNm7z6w

It's just a quick idle/rev video. It's not the best, but you can get an idea of what it sounds like. Deep V8 noises, followed by snap, crackle, pop. I need a GoPro or something to get a good driving video of it. The sound at WOT is so good.
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Re: Street Truck

Post by occasional demons » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:40 pm

Sounds awesome!
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Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

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1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

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