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Post by esteinmaier » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:01 pm

Cylinder 1 will be very lean. Probably 8%+ compared with 4. Make sure to tune excessively rich.
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Post by quicksilvr » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:46 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Cylinder 1 will be very lean. Probably 8%+ compared with 4. Make sure to tune excessively rich.


That's how it ran before....Cylinder 1 leaner than the rest. I had hoped this would help that....but you think it will stay the same or get even worse?
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Post by turbodudey » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:41 pm

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esteinmaier wrote:Cylinder 1 will be very lean. Probably 8%+ compared with 4. Make sure to tune excessively rich.


That's how it ran before....Cylinder 1 leaner than the rest. I had hoped this would help that....but you think it will stay the same or get even worse?
I think the manifold looks better than it did before. Without actually running a flow simulation I'm just imagining that the increased velocity at the far end of the plenum will result in relatively lower air pressure, thus proportionally richer AFR.

(if I ever get time, I'll trying wipping up a FlowWorks model, and see what it looks like)
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Post by turbodudey » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:05 pm

So it's better than before, but still not quite enough to even out cylinder 1.

It looks like the inlet side of the manifold needs to be angled too - about 15 to 20 degrees.

Like so:

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Post by INVUJerry » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:41 pm

Ugh, I just want to see this car doing rolling burnouts. It's been a long time, and I've followed this log forever.

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Post by quicksilvr » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:55 pm

^Ha!

Agreed. I do solemnly swear to have this car burning rubber by this coming spring. :)
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Post by quicksilvr » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:58 pm

:twisted:
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Post by haseebgill12 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:59 am

hmm came out of hibernation with an evil smiley face, I suspect there has been some progress? :)
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:19 am

haseebgill12 wrote:hmm came out of hibernation with an evil smiley face, I suspect there has been some progress? :)
+1. the weather is nice too!

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Post by racer12306 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:54 pm

You're doing this all wrong. You are NOT supposed to use real engineering tools to design the best possible piece for your situation.

You ARE supposed to just throw junk parts on it and expect 700WHP.

Get it right.
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Post by quicksilvr » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:12 pm

Well its not quite burning rubber yet, but I've been making time to work on it every couple days.


This is in:
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And this is back on:
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This is powdercoated:
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And finally, this nice little piece is in place:
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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:48 am

Very nice!

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Post by quicksilvr » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:23 am

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Post by occasional demons » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:57 am

Only thing that bugs me there is the engine was wide open during grinding.

Maybe I'm a bit anal about that.... :lol:
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Post by TurboVanDan » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:00 pm

I have to agree... the grinding/cutting thing was quite a bit awkward. And I was the one doing it. Rats.
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Post by occasional demons » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:05 pm

Don't feel too bad, I have caught myself doing the same thing at times. Then realize I'm getting ahead of myself.
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Post by quicksilvr » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:34 pm

No grinding debri went in the engine, but with the amount of grinding we're still going to have to do for other things, the towel needs to go back in place.

Currently taking bets on how much plastic needs to be removed from the from bumper to fit it over that inter cooler....my guess is that it won't fit.
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Post by TurboVanDan » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:58 pm

My guess is that we will make the bumper cover work... and it won't be hard.
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Post by occasional demons » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:55 pm

quicksilvr wrote:No grinding debri went in the engine, but with the amount of grinding we're still going to have to do for other things, the towel needs to go back in place.
I would even painter's tape the intake ports too.
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Post by TurboVanDan » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:05 pm

It was good to meet you this past weekend Bill... It is now nice to be able to put a face with your thoughtful posts...
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Post by quicksilvr » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:25 pm

A few more official updates.....


The car lives. :rockon:



Modified front brace to fit with the '02 bumper
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Installed an RB1
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And then finished it up, click the link for video in Flickr.

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THEN....drove it across the country to the 2014 Carlisle 2gn.org meet!

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Talked to Ralph Gilles
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At TMI
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The drive home
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Post by FAC3L3SS » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:52 pm

:thumb up:

Great chatting with you and putting names to a few faces from this build.
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:27 pm

X2! It was great to finally meet you and your father!
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Post by INVUJerry » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:07 pm

Dude! I was so happy to see you both and this car!

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Post by quicksilvr » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Thanks guys! It was aweome getting to meet all you guys as well. I'm looking forward to next year.

Here's what I worked on for a bit this evening.....

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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:15 am

Awesome work Dave! Great build

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Post by quicksilvr » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:10 pm

Thanks dude.

The car is up on jackstand again for a short bit, getting the wheels all balanced, and installing new rotors and pads all around.

I'm also fixing the wastegate linkage that broke, redoing the vacuum lines from turbo to boost controller to WGA, and cleaning a few things up. Plus, installing a good catch can and an all aluminum radiator.

I pulled all the plugs, and they look fine. Rich, but not horrible. To be on the safe side initially I had it hitting 10.0 AFR in the higher boost part of the VE table, and I also had it running a little too rich in vacuum. We averaged about 28mpg on the trip when we cruised at 75mph....but did get a whopping 34mpg out of one tank that had a slower average speed due to construction and traffic. That said, my cruising AFR in the 50-80kPA range is a little too rich, and I need to pull some of that fuel out. As far as boost goes, I'm going to tune for an 11-11.5 AFR in boost, and see what the plugs look like and how it runs that way.
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Post by Neon4Life » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:26 am

Damn, that's good gas mileage for being turboed. Nice.
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Post by quicksilvr » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:47 am

Rear brakes are done, and the fronts are in process.

Dad picked up a 180 degree thermostat at Vatozone yesterday. The 195 degree thermostat was just too hot...hopefully we can keep it at or under 200 all the time with the 180.



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Post by thomas_w » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:40 pm

Looks nice, especially with those rims.

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