ZeroChad's Log -- Parting out this weekend.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:13 pm

nice man im going to check them out since ill be needing some soon lol

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:47 pm

srtjesse wrote:nice man im going to check them out since ill be needing some soon lol

I hear ha man. Out of the forged pistons, Wiseco seemed to be the best choice to me. I wasn't going to pay for CP, and they included rings while still costing less than JE.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:26 am

nice man when i saw what you payed for them i was like wtf nice find lol

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:54 pm

Sweet. All of my parts are here. Here's the engine stuff + LCAs. Those bushings are beefy! I'm sure the ride is going to feel amazing with them installed. I might wait to put them out till I get the engine going though.

Now, to whore it up with some pics of the pistons. The build quality of these is just phenomenal. I don't think I've held such a quality, high tolerance part in my hand. ever.

Anti Friction coating skirts

Wrist pin hole. Notice the raised portion on top. I think its technically called the dome.

Better pic with valve reliefs

From the underside

They even sharpie the weights on the bottom. There is about a gram and a half variance between the four. Not bad!

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:00 pm

Mmmmm those are gorgeous! When do you expect to be completed and back on the road by? So glad it's all coming together for you.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:12 pm

wow i just creamed all over my keyboard lol not get those bad boys in there and get your car running

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:37 pm

I know! I can't stop looking at them lol.

Well my last day of work is tomorrow. I'm taking sat off to celebrate, then I have all of next week off, and move back into school on Sat. I'm hoping to get started on Sunday and hopefully be done Tues/Wen.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:41 pm

so nice. from modern?
felpro gaskets ftw

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:41 pm

haha my wife was like omg those look beautiful haha shes into car too haha

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:07 pm

Bearings, LCA, mat = modern
Gaskets = Rock Auto
Pistons/Rods = Real Street Performance

Felpro is pretty much the only gasket I use.

I think Modern only sells JE pistons. When you factor in the added cost + rings its quite a bit more than Wiseco. Not to mention the sweet coating.

haha my wife was like omg those look beautiful haha shes into car too haha

SOKADAO954 · Post by **SOKADAO954** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:19 pm

dude i busted a nut when i saw the pics....

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:04 am

i couldnt even knwo where to start when putting that stuff together good look should be a sick build

neonslg09 · Post by **neonslg09** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:02 am

oh my ga. me wants forged internals like chad.

get them in!

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:52 pm

Dan - Thanks man!

Fuzzy - a month ago I wouldn't have known either. With enough time and effort though, its amazing the things you can learn how to do.

09- I'm thinking monday is when I'll be sizing up the rings and dropping em in

Wrist pins and rods are on. The retaining clips weren't quite as hard to get on as I was expecting. These use a floating wrist pin type.

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:00 am

Hmmmmm pretty.

Work on it starts today?

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:46 pm

^ yup! Just got back from the beach. Now its time to get started

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:06 pm

Get anything done??? Hmmmm?

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:35 pm

I'm pooped lol. I ended up not getting too much done last night. I lost some bolts to my UPD/Steering wheel puller. But, I just finished taking the head off and plugging the coolant passages. Here's some quick pics. I'm going to the pool now to cool off. Things have gone so freaking smoothily so far. I might take out the pistons/rods when I get back.

Engine mount bracket off.

Head off

Coolant pluged

FYI this is what I'm working with.

hul kogan · Post by **hul kogan** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:18 pm

Shadetree mechanic...love it!! Looks like it is going well thus far.

Speeder · Post by **Speeder** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:50 pm

ZeroChad wrote:

same way i work on mines....
but i would have a cooler of beer next to me

SOKADAO954 · Post by **SOKADAO954** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:27 pm

Speeder wrote:
ZeroChad wrote:
same way i work on mines....
but i would have a cooler of beer next to me

deff would have a cooler too.

bur my complex would never let me work out in the lot like that.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:56 pm

Chris - Hell yeah! Well, technically it was only shady there after 4, but it still works.

Adam - Me too man. I don't wanna mess anything up this time though.

Danny - I'm not sure how they feel about it lol. I've never had my car on jackstands here before, but I should be done by the end of tomorrow, so we'll see what happens lol.

I was able to get the pistons out. Those rod cap bolts were on there pretty tight. Overall, things look great. No cylinder damage at all. The counter weight on the crankshaft looks okay. Its scratched, but not badly. Every single rod bearing looked freaking mint. That surprised me for being close to 100k.

The bent rod in cyl 1 compared to a good one.

Pics of the piston damage from hitting the counterweight.

Bearings on the bent rod. They looked great.

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esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:15 pm

That's awesome. Looks just like my own setup, but dished pistons instead of domed ones.

measy27 · Post by **measy27** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:20 pm

Those look great...

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:37 pm

thanks measy.

esteinmaier wrote:That's awesome. Looks just like my own setup, but dished pistons instead of domed ones.

I'm really starting to consider e85 + boost down the road. People may say its crazy, but I think e85 would do wonders with the higher compression.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:55 pm

As long as you stick with a bigger turbo to avoid a sharp torque peak and keep boost pressure down pretty low, there's no reason you can't make that thing scream. I intend to run 36-38psi on my 9.2ish:1 motor on e85. If you keep yours down in the teens or low 20s, it should be very tunable, and able to make tons of power. (500 seems pretty easy with a bigger cam and a setup that breathes well)

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:06 pm

That rod is spooning......that bastage. Coming along well though especially for the space in which you have to work.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:12 pm

wow man those look sick and yeah you should deff boost your whip man not rying to thread jack just want a little info verything here in this picture is everything you need to fully rebuild the block minus the crank right wich would consist of pistons, piston rings, rods, rod bearings and main baring plus all the gaskets right am i missing anything?

latief · Post by **latief** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:25 pm

Awesome work! I work under a tree also and it is not fun...

I have a couple of questions, how can you tell if the block itself needs/does not need some work? and if you don't mind me asking, how much did this cost you? I need to do something like this soon + a valve job since my engine has become very week at 130,000 miles....

thanks, keep us updated?:thumbup:

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:09 pm

esteinmaier wrote:As long as you stick with a bigger turbo to avoid a sharp torque peak and keep boost pressure down pretty low, there's no reason you can't make that thing scream. I intend to run 36-38psi on my 9.2ish:1 motor on e85. If you keep yours down in the teens or low 20s, it should be very tunable, and able to make tons of power. (500 seems pretty easy with a bigger cam and a setup that breathes well)

Yeah, I may hit up asp next year when I graduate and have a nice salary. The high comp should provide some nice torque out of boost too to make it more streetable.

That rod is spooning......that bastage. Coming along well though especially for the space in which you have to work.

LMAO thanks chica. I couldn't believe how much it was bent, and it wasn't making contact with the cylinder wall. Its kinda cool working outside. I'm keeping everyone in my building updated, they usually stop by and say hi when they get out of there car.

wow man those look sick and yeah you should deff boost your whip man not rying to thread jack just want a little info verything here in this picture is everything you need to fully rebuild the block minus the crank right wich would consist of pistons, piston rings, rods, rod bearings and main baring plus all the gaskets right am i missing anything?

Pretty much, you'd want the mopar bed plate sealant too if you're doing the main bearings. Its green colored. Also, don't forget plastigauge, gauge feelers, a cylinder hone, and a ring compressor/expander. You can rent some of those from advanced/autozone though.

You might want to do your tensioner, water pump, and oil pump while you have it torn apart. I had mine done 3 months ago in my first rebuild

I have a couple of questions, how can you tell if the block itself needs/does not need some work? and if you don't mind me asking, how much did this cost you? I need to do something like this soon + a valve job since my engine has become very week at 130,000 miles....

Thanks, I think its going to come in just south of a grand. It depends if I want to buy or rent some of the tools. A compression check would be a good place to start. You can always get an oil analysis done to to check for wear. If you drop the oil pan, you can do a quick check on your bearings and rod clearance. You'd need new bolts though since you can't reuse the stock rod bolts.