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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:50 pm

I love my stage 2 wastegate I've had it since 2005. Great driveability, no insane spikes, just smooth powerband. In other news: That's a really shitty situation, sorry you had to go through all of that. Wow. At least the dealership fought for you though, that's not something you see all that often.

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Post by dbesade » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:44 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:I love my stage 2 wastegate I've had it since 2005. Great driveability, no insane spikes, just smooth powerband. In other news: That's a really shitty situation, sorry you had to go through all of that. Wow. At least the dealership fought for you though, that's not something you see all that often.
Yeah, I was surprised but if you think about it the Mazda dealer was in a position to make some good money off replacing my turbo, almost $700 in labor. I'm glad to have a brand new turbo on the car, its one less thing to worry about ya know. I have not sure if I can still get the Mopar Stage 2 WGA New, I put out a WTB on SRTForums and on here. Maybe something will pop up.

I Really did like my AGP WGA but i don't drive the car like I use too and while I enjoy peaking at 20lbs on DaB 3 I'm sure the Stage 2 WGA can do that without all the PTB.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:23 pm

That's why I bought it, hardly any PTB compared to other WGAs on the market. You can buy it new, and last I heard MPX was still selling it brand new.

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Post by dbesade » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:42 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:That's why I bought it, hardly any PTB compared to other WGAs on the market. You can buy it new, and last I heard MPX was still selling it brand new.
Can't Find it on their website. I PMed the guys at S & P and hopefully they can do that for me before they close their doors.
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Post by dbesade » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:41 pm

Okay,

So I have been doing some research on if I can find a Stage 2 WGA New. I have some bad news:

0 in Parts Depots
0 at the dealers
0 in Production

Now I have called around and found more information. Chrysler is due to post their new price listings, etc and announce their production runs for parts, the Stage 2 WGA Could still make it in there, but I have a feeling it won't.

So. If you have a Stage 2 WGA for Sale, PM Me immediately with Pictures and a Price.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:32 am

Awww man that sucks :(

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Post by neonslg09 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:36 am

SRTforums.

Go now.

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Post by dbesade » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:38 am

neonslg09 wrote:SRTforums.

Go now.
Already Searched and posted a Wanted to Buy Topic.
-Note: I had 2 offers here already so I am working those out and if I get any on srtforums I will work those out too. I'm sure I will find one in good condition.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:06 pm

Best of luck Dave

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Post by dbesade » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:25 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:Best of luck Dave
Well Here is the short update:
I found a Stage 2 WGA Here on 2GN, problem is its oversea's so I have to wait. I got very few offers and Mopar no longer offers these for sale new. On the clutch front I have decided to go with the ACT clutch and flywheel and I am working with a shop on that and hope to have progress there. The new Turbo is about broken in and is doing fine, I plan to buy the following at the same time:

1. Timing Belt Tensioner
2. ACT Clutch Kit
3. Prothane Bushings
4. Plugs/Wires

I did have additional plans for some other suspension work but I am saving up to buy a house so I only have around $1000 to work with at the moment. I want a Garage. I still have some concerns about the Autozone Waterpump but it seems to be good build quality and does have a Metal Impeller, I also HAD concerns about the Goodyear Timing Belt but I'm sure both of those parts will be fine on the car.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:27 am

Awesome that you finally found one. The ACT was the other clutch I was considering when I bought my Mopar. I wouldn't go with the lightweight flywheel though, I've seen too many people ruin their street driven cars with it.

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Post by dbesade » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:04 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:Awesome that you finally found one. The ACT was the other clutch I was considering when I bought my Mopar. I wouldn't go with the lightweight flywheel though, I've seen too many people ruin their street driven cars with it.
What do you mean? I was going to go with the Steel Flywheel? How does it ruin a street car?

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm

The lightweight one, I know of three people who blew their transmissions shifting improperly with one of those. Two are locals. The Steel one is great, it's the lightweight aluminum one that causes issues if the car isn't a strict track car.

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Post by dbesade » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:20 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:The lightweight one, I know of three people who blew their transmissions shifting improperly with one of those. Two are locals. The Steel one is great, it's the lightweight aluminum one that causes issues if the car isn't a strict track car.
Okay I was like uhh I hope the Steel Flywheel isn't an issue! Thanks for the info. My 3rd Gear is already on its way :-(

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:44 pm

No the steel one is basically an OEM replacement so you should be great with that. Why not replace third gear when you have it down for the clutch? Oh and pick up a shift fork....you'll thank me for that later down the road.

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Post by Danteneon » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:48 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:Why not replace third gear when you have it down for the clutch? Oh and pick up a shift fork....you'll thank me for that later down the road.
2005? Yeah, that may not be a bad idea.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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Post by dbesade » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:30 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:No the steel one is basically an OEM replacement so you should be great with that. Why not replace third gear when you have it down for the clutch? Oh and pick up a shift fork....you'll thank me for that later down the road.
Running into a problem here ... I am only finding the Prolite Flywheel 600340 part number. I thought there was a steel flywheel from them that was basically an OEM Replacement.

Right now my car still has a powertrain warranty. They are saying that the clutch is the issue so I am going to replace that and then show them it still kicks out of gear. They should eventually replace the tranny or rebuild/fix it.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:21 pm

Buy a factory flywheel then, MSRP is around $75-80 dollars. My transmission in my SXT was just replaced for a bad reverse gear. Just the $100 deductible ;)

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Post by dbesade » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:30 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:Buy a factory flywheel then, MSRP is around $75-80 dollars. My transmission in my SXT was just replaced for a bad reverse gear. Just the $100 deductible ;)
LSP,

Okay after a few phone calls and a flurry of emails here is what I have determined. The clutch kit I am looking at is the DN3-HDSS (Doesnt include the flywheel). The Flywheel they have is a Steel Flywheel. The issues they have seen with shifting are the result of worn Shift forks. I don't currently know the condition of mine but I am going to replace it while I have this all apart. The ACT Flywheel should be fine.

The unfortunate side to this is now this is going to cost me more than I had planned. Here is my new list let me know what you think:

1. Clutch Kit + Flywheel
2. Clutch Fork
3. New Flywheel Bolts & Loctite

Now my question is isn't there a pivot ball if the Clutch Fork? If so should I replace that too? Just making sure I get everything that goes with that ya know? I do need to find out if the Clutch will void my Warranty through Fidelity.

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:37 pm

Pivot ball is a separate part, yes you should replace it. As long as the flywheel is steel and not lightweight you'll be fine. Does it come with a TOB also?

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Post by dbesade » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:41 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:Pivot ball is a separate part, yes you should replace it. As long as the flywheel is steel and not lightweight you'll be fine. Does it come with a TOB also?
its 11lbs. I don't know if thats light weight. I am checking on the TOB as well. Do you have the part number for the ball. Man this is turning out to be expensive :-(
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:20 pm

Not offhand, Dante would be able to get it for you though. Yes it is expensive, the fork is around $200. 11lbs sounds about right....

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Post by Danteneon » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:24 pm

Heard my name again :lol:

The pivot is a seperate part. Part #4670240...MSRP $11.95 And if you want to be complete, replace the clip that holds the lever to the pivot too. Part #5019842AA...MSRP $9.60

And Crystal is right about the fork. Part #4725612AA...MSRP $195.00 :shock:
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:54 pm

What's funny is on the SXT transmission the pivot ball comes with the fork....but not on the SRT. Yeah I recalled that price pretty well :)

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Post by Danteneon » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:59 pm

That is funny. The pivot and the clip are the same part for the 350 and the 850 trans. Just the lever is different. Hell, the TOB is almost the same as well. The SRT TOB has a larger surface area where the bearing hits the pressure plate. It looks like a big washer. Where the shift fork hits it is the same.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:23 pm

The shift fork is insanely different, here I'll take a picture I have a brand new t350 Fork here and a used t850 Fork as well. I have a brand new t350 TOB here but no t850 TOB to compare it to. Pivot ball is in the pictures also.

t350 on the top, t850 on the bottom:

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t350 on the top, t850 on the bottom:
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Dbesade: While I posted these I may as well educate as to why you should replace the shift fork. Look at the t850 lever in the first picture. Over time the TOB wears an uneven surface into the fork due to it being a soft metal. This causes sloppy shifts, a noisy TOB, and eventual clutch issues. It could be contributing to, but not causing, all the issues you have with third gear and would also contribute to the difficulty of getting into any gear, along with a low pedal.

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Let the orders begin! Update 1/29/2010

Post by dbesade » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:54 am

Update 1/29/2010: Let the ordering begin!

Okay so I have been complaining about needing to get a lot of maintainence done on my SRT for some time now. Well I have been collecting parts and writing down what I need to do the following:

*Timing Belt Replacement
-Water Pump
-Idler Pully
-Belt Tensioner
-Replacement Belt

*Clutch Replacement
-ACT Clutch Kit DN3-HDSS
-ACT Flywheel
-New Flexplate Bolts
-Replacement Fork & Ball

*Suspension work
-All New Bushings
-Ball Joints

Well today was a good day. I have ordered the rest of the parts for my Timing Belt Change. I ordered them from Mopar.com so they are coming directly from Chrysler/Mopar. I also ordered the Balljoints from Rock Auto, 2 of them, the MOOG Parts to replace my current ones. I also ordered an Energy Suspension Master Kit for my SRT to replace all my worn out and torn bushings. Finally I am finalizing the clutch order and hope to have that ordered maybe on Monday. I am still going to need the Clutch Fork & Ball but I am waiting on those until the next paycheck. I also am waiting on my Stage 2 Wastegate.

I can't wait until the boxes start coming in :-)

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:52 pm

Then it's time to install!!! YAY :D

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Post by LionheartedSXT » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:15 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:Then it's time to install!!! YAY :D
yea the install, the fun part, its gonna be another fun filled 3 day weekend under the car... :rofl:
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Post by Passt » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:01 pm

Nice, good luck with the install.
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