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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:48 am
by hybrid-Srt2001
wow, car has come a long ways. good luck with the transmission
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:55 pm
by tomfitz
today went well and we made a ton of progress.... the car still wont start though so i am giving up and getting my car towed to my buddy's shop.. good news tho.. maybe i will share it later
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:59 pm
by tomfitz
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:01 pm
by TheRandom1
Doesn't the T.C. get seated into the trans, and the whole trans put back in as one assembly?
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:06 pm
by tomfitz
the torque converter had to be bolted to the flex plate
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:08 pm
by TheRandom1
Yes, that's done AFTER the trans is in. Everything I have ever seen and read says you install the TC first onto the trans snout, THEN install the trans into the car. Otherwise the TC may not seat properly and you blow up your trans.
May want to check that before you fuck everything up...
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:14 pm
by 2001rt32
are there balls hanging from your car?....... but that pic is a good sig pic i like it.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:47 pm
by tomfitz
yeah there are balls.... i was tired of people telling me that neons have no balls.... it may not have balls performance but i sure as hell have balls now... and there is no way to bolt the t.c to the flexplate while it is in the transmission because you have to turn it to get to all the bolt holes and the only way to do that is to do them separately... my buddy has done it a few times and he works in a garage... idk though.... maybe you are right
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:49 pm
by TheRandom1
I'm not saying he's "wrong" but everything I have ever seen says to do it the way I describe, so good luck. Hopefully you haven't already fucked up the trans pump and such.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:51 pm
by LowNSlow
Balls hanging from any vehicle is pretty tacky and trashy IMO.
Especially in an automatic n/a neon...

for shame
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:53 pm
by tomfitz
well it might not be n/a for long... my buddy with a stage two said he would sell me all of his stock shit for $100.. and he would help put it in... and about the t.c., i just put it back together the way that it came apart and the way that the directions that came with the t.c. said to... we will find out...
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:54 pm
by TheRandom1
They said to bolt the TC up and then slide the trans over it??
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:55 pm
by FAC3L3SS
Yeah. Glad you're getting the new trans in right at least. Lose the balls mang. Who cares what other people say about them.
Selling you "all the basic stuff" for boost for $100 is nice of him, but there is plenty more to be figured out and cash to be spent to be boosted.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:04 pm
by tomfitz
yeah i know... this summer i will be working full time so we will see if it goes down or not... and yeah, the directions said to fill the t.c. with about a quart of atx fluid and then bolt it to the flexplate and then slide the tranny on.... it just isnt possible to get to all the bolts if the tranny is covering the the part that the trans snout goes into which you have to turn with a wrench to get to all the bolts... idk... i gave up because of frustration and it is getting towed to my buddies shop for them to find out why it wont start.. we will see
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:06 pm
by TheRandom1
Well, from what I've heard/read etc you get the one or two bolts started that you can, then you rotate the engine by using the crank bolt (after removing the spark plugs) so that you can get the other bolts in.
I hope the non-starting issue is nothing serious!
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:08 pm
by tomfitz
yeah me too.. i hope i didnt totally mess up the tranny either though.... wish some of you guys lived closer so you all could help me.... i had a honda kid helping me :/
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:11 pm
by TheRandom1
Well, that's the first problem...

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:13 pm
by tomfitz
yeah well the only other kid that has a neon that was available has even gayer shit on his car than steel balls
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:14 pm
by TheRandom1
There are gayer things than steel balls?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:16 pm
by tomfitz
try imitation diamond plate and blue vinyls on a burnt orange car....
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:17 pm
by TheRandom1
Eek! That is pretty damn bad.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:19 pm
by tomfitz
yeah... i felt bad but when i first saw it i made a gagging noise and asked him if he was mentally ill....
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:20 pm
by TheRandom1
Sounds like something I would do. But we all know I'm an asshole.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:21 pm
by tomfitz
the best of us are.... atleast that makes us honest
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:32 pm
by TheRandom1
If unpopular.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:34 pm
by tomfitz
i dont really care about popularity... i graduated from highschool hahaha
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:36 pm
by TheRandom1
I did too... barely.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:22 am
by TheRandom1
Just confirmed with Frank (racer12306) and you probably bound up the trans when you put it all back together which is why it won’t start. You absolutely are supposed to engage the tc in the trans before installation, and you use either a flywheel turner, or a breaker bar on the crank bolt to turn the motor over and get all of the bolts in.
If the car hasn’t gone in yet, pull it back inside and try doing that (spin the tc to engage it into the trans properly) if not, you may want to tell them that you suspect the tc isn’t installed properly, and they can start there.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:33 am
by heydockyle
Yea, clutch gets bolted to flywheel first. TC doesn't.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:38 am
by racer12306
Yeah, I've never heard of bolting they TC to the flexplate first. If there is an "inspection cover" on the bottom of the bell housing then you can get all the bolts between the TC and the flexplate tightened without a problem.
You just need to get one started and then spin the assembly til you get to the next bolt. Also don't forget to get all the bolts started and then go around again tightening then as they should be.