germany: where all the neons will maybe go

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germany: where all the neons will maybe go

Post by Gnuserup » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:41 pm

As I thought I had to get another neon where I could work on a bit, I found a damaged 2005 SXT

So I picked it up on August 11th about 555km away from home with a trailer (many thanks to my father-in-law)

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I experienced it has been owned by a soldier in germany for about 2 years and he sold it with about 27000 miles after he had an accident to a german dealer.

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Looking from outside there is just a little crack in the bumper (ignoring the missing headlights :lol: ) but under the hood there is unfortunatelly a lot more out of order

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Most conspicuous were a wrong throttle body, defective steering pump, missing antenna, missing washing water nozzles, 2 missing alloys, and so on.

The car stood since Feb. 07 until August 10 and has lost some parts within that time. But the engine ran :rockon: and I could drive the car by its own power onto the trailer.

Back home I have been very lucky finding a neon on a junkyard nearby a week later. Here I got the antenna, nozzles and the most wanted - the entire front

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Middle of september the correct throttlebody arrived

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and went directly in.

The steering pump has been more difficult. I don´t now exactly
what they did with it, but the reservoir was just a piece of s...

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I took the reservoir from the pump out of the blue here, but a hose in the SXT was defective and the pump
itself sounds poor. So I have been glad to receive a used pump from the states a few days later.

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Days went by and I had to check some electrical issues -

we have to install a rear foglight including control lamp, seperate the rear turn signal lights from the stop lights and let them be amber.

As my "euro-neon" has a multifunctionswitch including the rearfoglight function and the cluster has the control lamp I thought
there has to be a way...

So I found out, that pin12 on the MFS-plug is unused at the SXT but delivering the power for the rear foglight and the controllamp, too (which goes to pin1 on the cluster-plug).

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I took out the needed wiring from a dashboard which I got for little money meanwhile

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and installed it

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together with the controllamp

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and one of these Switches out of my collection :roll:

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and now have what I wanted to

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Yesterday I putted the plates on which I hope that I finally will be allowed to wear on the SXT

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and today unscrewed the front bumper and some more

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so that we can do the welding until weekend.

Hopefully the weather and kids will be fine tomorow, cause I like
to remove the bumpers, batterie a.s.o.
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Post by 2005.Neon.SXT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:32 pm

Very very cool. As I was looking through, I was wondering if the front end looked funny. Looked crooked, lol.

a.s.o. = and so on? lol, figured it was a different form of "et cetera"
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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:16 am

removed both bumpers and batterie today

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a little more to fix

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now it´s time to prolong it a bit or I have no chance to get the pcm out

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unfortunatelly two lids are broken, maybe someone has left some over ?? :D

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Post by Midnight_Rider » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:40 pm

Very interesting- keep the pics coming! :thumbup:
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Post by neonpla » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:02 pm

nice to see someone in another country restoring a neon... thanks for saving her!
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:27 pm

Nice work so far!

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Post by n20sxt » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:44 pm

neonpla wrote:nice to see someone in another country restoring a neon... thanks for saving her!
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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:18 pm

Thanks a lot - I´ll do my best and hopefully a bit more :D

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Post by Forest Green 2k » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:27 pm

neonpla wrote:nice to see someone in another country restoring a neon... thanks for saving her!
Ditto, it makes me like my Neon even better.
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Post by marakka » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:01 pm

Let me know if you need any help. I'm always shipping stuff to Legoman and DutchNeon... wouldn't take much to ship something to you too. ;)
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Post by Gnuserup » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:08 pm

Great - thank you very much for your kind support.

Today I had to demount the radiator and so on and found it looks not surprisingly similar to a banana :lol:

My mechanic meant, it would be better for welding to demount the radiator, condenser etc. so they exhausted the cooling and gave the neon a few cm by towing it

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controller outside

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and found out that the two broken lids are not the biggest problem

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The result this noon

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This evening a lot of more fun...
I determined the Radiator with the double-fan is not as easy to remove as the other is, except you plan to slit of your front :banghead:
The only way seems to be to demount the whole block - radiator including condenser including fans.

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I like this pliers a lot

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you are able to unfix the waterhoseclamp blind

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Next need to fix:

one of the screws for the automaticcoolerhose broke as she saw the 19 open-end wrench :tardbang:

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Think it will be better to get a new radiator and condenser

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For goodbye this evening these pictures

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For the moment I would be very happy if someone could get this controllerplug for me and these two lids. For radiator and condenser I am thinking about seperating the atx-part.

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Post by Forest Green 2k » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:22 pm

Is that an orange Neon with a black roof in the background?
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Post by Gnuserup » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:31 pm

yeah, it´s my other neon :thumbup:

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Post by Fuzzyneon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:45 pm

looks like a good mtx swap canidate
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Post by Gnuserup » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:49 pm

The orange has mtx. So i am happy to get a atx with the SXT again. The only thing I wish to have would be an autostick atx.

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Post by Forest Green 2k » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:14 pm

Gnuserup wrote:The orange has mtx. So i am happy to get a atx with the SXT again. The only thing I wish to have would be an autostick atx.
Too bad you're in Germany or we could swap transmissions. :lol:
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Post by r/tguy02 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:22 pm

yeah i recommend you just go ahead and run a separate cooler for the atx at this point, no point in chancing it with the stock one. get an mtx rad now.
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Re: repair of a damaged SXT in Germany

Post by Jenni » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:41 pm

Gnuserup wrote:...
I experienced it has been owned by a soldier in germany for about 2 years and he sold it with about 27000 miles after he had an accident to a german dealer.
hehe, google translations...

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Post by Gnuserup » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:05 am

hmm, always trying to have a good or at least an usable expression...

"The formerly owner was a soldier in germany who owned the neon for about two years. He sold the car after he had an accident"

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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:32 pm

Today´s work

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No - not a car-jack :lol: a Dozer ...

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now the car can be prolonged a bit...

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drilling out the spot welds ...

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The two screwholes at the rear for the towing bracket for the export-models

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and the front towing bracket ...

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Next days it will hopefully go on :)

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Post by mopar04 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:55 pm

Nice. Do you have any pictures of your other Neon? (Orange and Black one)
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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:05 pm

Yes indeed, but not as much as for the SXT :roll:

Here are some viewtopic.php?t=52813
but I think I should not neglect my orange neon an take some more pictures next time ...

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Post by Marcel » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:24 pm

Good work!! :D

ehm... silly question, do you have a leftover multi-switch for a 01 with front foglight function? :mrgreen:
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Post by Gnuserup » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:44 pm

Not really, means I think I have one anywhere around here, but it has the usually plastic-gear-problem. Do you have just a MFS with rearfog only or is your MFS defective ?

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Post by Gnuserup » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:19 am

Damn, if I only would have known that my atx-hoses are fast-connects, I would not have been trying to unscrew the nozzles :banghead:

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Post by occasional demons » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:07 pm

First time I read this. I was wondering why you tried unscrewing them.

But like previously mentioned, just go with an MTX radiator, and a separate ATX cooler. Eliminates the oil to coolant heat exchanger problem that has been destroying a fair amount of transmissions lately. A screw extractor will get the remaining disconnect out.

I do not know what the thread size is for the connects, but if it is a special thread, just get a new one, and use the old tube to go back in.

Then cut and use a double flare tool to put a bump on the end to retain a rubber ATX hose to the external cooler. To make just a rounded bump at the end, only do the first step in the double flare procedure.
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A worm clamp will hold the hose on.
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Post by Gnuserup » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:53 pm

Thanks for the tip. I hadn´t realized that this are fast-connects on the 2005 when I was working on it. The 2004 and below have simple connectors. I was asking chrysler and they want 17 € for one fast-connect, and 8€ for the older simple one.
We tried to get the broken screw out with an extractor but where not succesful yet. It has been pasted in originally with loctite or something. Next step is to heat it up and try again. If it fails again with need to drill it out.
Wether it will be done at least I think I had to remove the connectors anyway if I like to install a seperate tranycooler.

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Post by Gnuserup » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:33 am

Today a little progress ...

The mechanic meant it would be necessary to remove the engine :tardbang:
So here it goes :

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This plate has to be renewed- 04783289AJ about 110,00 € at the :D

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This damn buckling at the inner frame has to be fixed...

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Hope that I get all together right any how any time

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Post by Gnuserup » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:20 am

Got my "Reinforcement, Side Rail left" today - 04783289AK (109,00 €)
and two nozzles to replace the fast connectors 04809377AA (8,00 € each) on the atx for seperating the radiator

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Hope the work will go on next days.

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Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:36 am

Very nice progress log. Hopefully it pays off in the end. :)

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