germany: where all the neons will maybe go

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:02 pm

yeah - me too (except my wife

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This way we have something like a forum-junkyard which is pretty good for being able to get any part from the smallest plastic interior part to subframes a.s.o. Especially as the neon is really rare over here.

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:02 pm

Today had been a busy day -

Legoman soldered new wires to the clockspring for adding cruisecontrol to his "new" 2nd

Chris tortured his fenders to install LED-side-turnlight instead of the original Bux´s

Huk installed foglights (bad picture, but hey - everyone knows how a neon with foglights look like)

Oli and me were sawing a tree and soldering a bit.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:18 am

Looks like fun! No snow in your area this time of year?

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:24 pm

sure - you´re right. But fortunatelly the weather changed from -10 ° C to + 10° C last week

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:31 pm

Today is like X-mas

my latest finds:

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packed pretty well

result is something like 2/3 packaging, 1/3 parts

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RT manual

unfortunatelly nothing really special, but anyway interesting

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RT sideskirts

unfortunatelly the LH with a huge scratch, but both with all clips and seem not to be broken

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RT exhaust manifold

damn - where is the 1st o2 located ?

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upper and lower Magnum intake

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so now I have to watch out for the rest and then ... let´s get started

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:37 pm

sehr geil!

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:32 pm

yeah - that is pretty cool, but today I got more toys...

Post from China

and something to add for my SXT-Audio-Setup

so that the kicker sub has not to feel so lonely any longer

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:41 pm

du weißt bescheid: ich brauch noch nen Lautsprecher für hinten...

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:16 pm

sehr gut!

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:34 pm

@ Jenni - yes I do

Forthe LE or the SRT ?

@ Neon Parabola - thanks

Today weather was really cool, so we used the time to prepare the black one for his near end

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:58 pm

Woud you be interested in another parts donor?
2001 LE, all panels are free of damage. Motor and gearbox (MT) are ok. The car has 203000 km under its wheels. Wheel suspension front right needs TLC and probably new rubbers.
Neon will be brought back to near-stock but some parts will remain, such as underdrive pulley and performance exhaust manifold. Other than that nothing special.
I do have lying around a SRT-style exhaust with muffler (not completely welded) for a 2.0 engine and a new PVO type spoiler.

Since neons are hard to sell my asking price will not be high and since you are a neon enthousiast i am willing to part for a very reasonable price

If you're interested, PM me.

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:54 am

he has like 12000 Neons on his ground and his wife is just about to kill him

My plan is to build a Neon Stretch Limo. But meeeeh that will never happen I think...

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:39 am

Jenni wrote:he has like 12000 Neons on his ground

then +1 would not even be noticed right??

Jenni wrote:My plan is to build a Neon Stretch Limo. But meeeeh that will never happen I think...

my neon would be a good donor or tryout model right??

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:59 pm

yep - seems like it would (both what Jenni said).

Told him, it would be like pulling up weeds - pluck one, two are growing

But for low cost and if other wrecks are leaving for sure, she promised to be tolerant.

But anyway - if you have no one who want her for riding, you could come for a visit and leave her here.
We´re going to have a bbq on 18.5.2013 and hope I could fill up my garden with much neons (hopefully most of them will leave sooner, not later anyway

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Only pricing might be not too gainful for you, as you can imagine silver neons LE with high mileage aren´t rare to find and it is a long way from NL to me (east of Berlin), so anyhow it won´t pay off, neither for me to come to get her nor for you to bring her.
If you could imagine to do so, it would be just for fun at the end.
Apropos fun - the planned weekend here in Berlin is "Karneval der Kulturen", so maybe really another reason to think about it ?
Another buddy from near Stuttgart would hopefully maybe come as well - he told something of maybe planning to visit "Tropical Islands". But that not for sure right now.
Further you probably could make a stopover at Bremen, where a buddy lives and definitely will come, too.

What are your plans for a new car after getting rid (anyhow) of her ?

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:48 pm

Will definitely keep that in mind!! i've never been in that part of Germany before and from what i heard it's a beautiful area. Well from what i have heard the traders buy Neons here for EUR 400,- so if you offer that price i would be happy to drive it to you for the exchange

Have to figure out though how to deal with writing my car out of the central registration in that case, but that´s for me to find out if you're interested at all.

well i am currently looking at a Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDi. The 'business line' trim is amazingly well equipped and it's quite a good drive too. Plus another advantage it's a cheap car to drive as a company car.
No final decision yet though but the other cars i've tested were of lesser quality, less fun to drive, more expensive or multiple of these things (Opel Astra, Skoda Rapid, Skoda Octavia, Ford Focus, VW Golf, Seat Leon)

Jenni · Post by **Jenni** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:42 pm

it really makes me cry to see you leaving the scene!

why not keep the Neon as a 2nd toy and come to Kelbra again?

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:02 am

Jenni wrote:it really makes me cry to see you leaving the scene!

why not keep the Neon as a 2nd toy and come to Kelbra again?

financial reasons: i cannot afford the insurance + tax when i go company car

I hate it too...

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:31 pm

we´ll see.

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todays work

next weekend hopefully a lot of cutting work

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:20 pm

Marcel wrote:
Jenni wrote:it really makes me cry to see you leaving the scene!

why not keep the Neon as a 2nd toy and come to Kelbra again?

financial reasons: i cannot afford the insurance + tax when i go company car
I hate it too...

So glad that I don't have to do that- I have a company car as well but we don't have the taxes here like you have so my Neon is on call when I want it.

FormerlyREDRT_98 · Post by **FormerlyREDRT_98** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:29 pm

The company car I drive is the car I drive all day at work, but it stays there. No insurance or taxes or anything out of my pocket

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:42 am

maybe i was a little unclear, so here's the deal.

When i go company car i get to choose:
1) pay tax but can drive the car unlimited miles.
2) not pay tax but limited to 500 miles A YEAR for personal use.

Additional tax for option 1 would be about EUR 200,- a month. Keeping my car costs EUR 100,- just for insurance and road tax; gas and maintenance excluded. All in all option 1 is the cheaper option for me..

OT:
good work!

man, i wish i had that much space to frolic in a garden full of neon

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:49 am

Ah, I understand now. Thanks.

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:41 pm

we do have such stupid taxes, too.

I have had a firm car in the past and here we have to pay income-tax for 1% of the catalogue price of the car you get (sometimes for the car you have to get). If you do not more than 90% (or something - I forgot) external work you have to add 0,01% for every single km your trip to work usually is (one way).
They call that due "non-cash benefit".

If you have a 30.000 € car (doesn´t matter if they got the car a lot cheaper) and e.g. a 50 km trip usual, you have to pay tax for 300€ + 150 €, so let´s say about 50 % at least.

Usually the employers here give you a german car like VW Passat, Audi A4 or sometimes Ford Focus or Mondeo.

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:43 pm

funny build but definitely a more honest deal than in NL.

Basically if you get a company care here the government sees it as additional income and you have to pay tax over the extra income.
So cars are divided into three categories according to CO2 exhaust: 14%, 20% and 25%. The percentage is for calculating the additional income you have to pay taxes for.

So, when you have a car of EUR 30.000,- within the 20% class you have an extra income of EUR 6.000,- which you have to pay income tax for. Based on your income it's either 37%, 42% or 52% of that EUR 6.000,- you have to pay each year.

And that is independent of the miles you drive each month so better make it count

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:08 pm

wow, that´s a lot. Sure they will get us the damn CO2-thing soon if they realize they can make just another and at least extra money without any consideration.
Until then this is an extra income for us, too, but it seems only half of the amount they rip you off

I kept my neon once as long as it was running and sold it as recently as I got the radiator/atx-fault.
This was my black 2nd.

Later i bought the silver 2nd which I still hold - meanwhile I have no company car anymore, but a lot of neons

FormerlyREDRT_98 · Post by **FormerlyREDRT_98** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:36 pm

And people complain about taxes here...

Marcel · Post by **Marcel** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:48 pm

Gnuserup wrote:wow, that´s a lot.

FormerlyREDRT_98 wrote:And people complain about taxes here...

It's even worse: Cars in NL are roughly 25% more expensive than in Germany due to additional taxes based on mileage of the car. Pre-emptive environment tax so to say

A brand new VW Golf 1.6 diesel with a price of EUR 20.000,- in Germany costs EUR 27.000,- in NL just because of this.....

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:33 pm

Got some more toys today -

I´m sure this will give about 6 bhp

and just additional

Damn, directly after purchasing the throttlebody I found the similar thing in my store

And two RT wheels, hope the other two will be on their way (to me) as well

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:39 pm

today was the last day for the black ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20-kkUVyw0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYNqRl9cZY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8kYAXluOy0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4q0bb9niCU

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:50 pm

Training on a neon, very nice!