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Post by DetergentCandy » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:08 am

Took the head to a machine shop today.

$65 for a mill and jet wash :thumbup:
I'm ready to rock and roll again!

Picked up some lapping compound on the way home.
Going to lap the valves and change the seals tomorrow.
Hopefully the short block comes tomorrow too or i'm gonna have to wait until Monday :/
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:09 am

Can't wait! :bounce:
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Post by DetergentCandy » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:52 am

Neither can I ^.^




So...how do I remove the valve springs?
My friend's universal spring compressor is no good. Their isn't enough room for the spring jaws :/
And Rich's compressor is a gigantic pneumatic press that takes two people.
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Post by SC62391 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:50 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote:Can't wait! :bounce:
:withstupid: :bounce:

I remember having a plastic driver type thing that you would just hit with a hammer and the keepers would just fall out. But that wont help you get them back in... :scratch: But it would get them out if you can get one and in the meantime you can try and find a proper one :lol:
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Post by DetergentCandy » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:25 pm

That's actually exactly what i'm doing! :D
I'm gonna use the hammer method to get them out.
And then I finally got a tool that will help me put them back in.
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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:08 am

Didn't get nearly as much done this weekend as i'd hoped for :/
Short block didn't come, so I found myself stripping the nasty green valve cover and intake manifold.
Repainting them something NOT green before putting them back on.

Got the valves out no problem. Before putting new seals in, Rich brought his mic over and looked at the guides. There's a little bit more clearance than there should be. So...since the heads already off and it's going to be getting new seals, i'm just going to have new guides installed. Or at least have some brass sleeves put in. I guess i'll pick up new valves while i'm at it x.x

At least now I know EVERYTHING will be new :D

Short block comes tomorrow, thankfully. And my motor mounts might come as well ^^
Ordered the timing belt kit through Modern, with a Gate's Racing belt. Picked up an MPx blow off plate and some booger booshings as well.

Eff me, this is getting expensive.
What else do I need? New head bolts, exhaust and intake manifold gaskets...and...new...something. I'll remember later.
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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:00 pm

OKAY!
I need some suggestions ASAP.
Guides are getting pressed tomorrow. The shop is getting me guides for $1.99 each.

But I also need valves.
They said exhaust valves are $10 and intake valves are $14. That's per valve.
I've tried Googling, and i'm not getting many results for valves.
Are those good prices? MPx has some REV valves for about the same price, but they're oversized.

But i'm not finding many others. Can I get a better deal somewhere else? Or should I just have them pick up the valves for me?

And while i'm at, i'm just going to get new springs as well. Fuck it. I'm so close to having a brand new head, i'm just gonna do it all. Can I run Crower springs with stock cams? I may wanna upgrade cams later without having to mess with the valve springs again.
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Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:37 pm

Did they say why you needed valves? The price sounds pretty good I would go ahead with the upgraded springs they wont hurt anything
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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:29 pm

Ya. I have clearance. Lots of it O:
Guides were worn. And valve stems were starting to show signs of it as well.
I'm already this far, I may as well go all the way you know?
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:35 am

I am so glad that you didn't give up. Your car will be almost new when you're finished!
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Post by DetergentCandy » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:35 am

Me too, Gramps! I get to start over at 0.
2005 SRT? Please. 2011 SRT! :D


Got some goodies from BWoody!
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Can't wait to feel the vibrations :P


Also, because I didn't have my short block over the weekend, I had some extra time to paint things! :D
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Valve cover and intake manifold are in primer right now >:3
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Post by SC62391 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:53 am

Wow those really do look EXACTLY like the agp mounts

Glad your getting it back together dude! :thumbup:
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Post by DetergentCandy » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:33 pm

They do! And they're like, $30 cheaper!
Then I found out that AGP is located in Tempe XD

Whatever. I like Bwoody. Good product :)
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Post by SC62391 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:31 pm

DetergentCandy wrote: Then I found out that AGP is located in Tempe XD
Whaaaaat? I didn't know that, i found out k sport is based out of Gilbert recently. Pretty crazy
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Post by DetergentCandy » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:32 pm

Neither did I XD
I probably still would have gone with BWoody regardless.
Cheaper, and I have one of their catch cans.
I like their work :)
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Post by DetergentCandy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:01 pm

Shot block is in.
Someone in the parts department just decided not to call me to let me know :/
Who knows how long they've had it.
UGH. Picking it up tonight after work!
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Post by SC62391 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:00 pm

Wow that's dumb, but at least it's there! Oh and, I want more pics!

Let's see how that car sits without a motor :lol:
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Post by DetergentCandy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:07 pm

I'll get more before I start putting the engine back together this weekend! :D

Oh, and I have a box >:3
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Post by NEON PARABOLA » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:48 pm

I can haz box?
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:32 am

"Heavy Load"? No doubt since it came with its own pallet. :shock:
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Post by mopar04 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:22 am

I have the same issue with the exhaust valve guides and now it's at the machine shop. (was going to port the head but they wanted to charge 400 for it)

About the valves, I shopped around too for all new valves and it seems online is actually a bit more expensive. I got new exhaust valves that the machine shop ordered in (same brand as online - Mahle) and they were only $8 and some change for each. Online they are $16. I guess it all depends on who you go through to buy them.

Keep up the work. Getting excited to see it all.
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Post by DetergentCandy » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:31 pm

NEON PARABOLA wrote:I can haz box?
Yes your can! You ain't getting what's inside though >:D



Gramps, I've never seen a pallet this small! It's like a midget pallet. It's almost cute.

Mopar04, I asked the dealership and they wanted $18 for exhaust valves and $14 for intake valves. Springs were $4 :/
So i'm just going to have the machine shop order them from their guys, today.





The core charge for my old block is only $300. I'm pretty sure I can get more for it locally.
How much do you think my old block is worth? $500?
Pretty much an entire short block that just need to be overbored.
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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:13 pm

New timing belt, belt tensioner, idler bearing, water pump, booger bushings and blow-off plate :D

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Waited too long deciding what valves to get O:
Now I won't have 'em until Tuesday >.<
Guess i'm spending this weekend painting again! XD
There isn't much I can do to the short block without the head.
I can always clean out the engine bay. There's some rust that needs to be cleaned up.

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Post by DetergentCandy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:08 am

New hotness :D
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Spent the day reassembling the old block and finished painting the intake manifold and valve cover >:3
Tomorrow i'll swap the blocks and put the new one on the stand.

What's the best way to put the crank gear back on? The Chrysler manual says to use a special tool...but Rich said I can just use a big deep socket and an impact hammer O.o
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Post by DetergentCandy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:26 pm

Well...definitely feels like things are going back together a lot slower than they came apart.

Got my crank timing gear installed! If you don't have a specialty tool then hit it with a hammer, RAWR! :D

As of right now, the new engine is on the stand, and the new water pump and belt tensioner are installed.

Painted lots of engine brackets and...various other engine things. There was a little rust here and there so I sand blasted 'em. I want everything going back on clean!
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Post by NEON PARABOLA » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:20 am

NOW is the time to paint/clean/replace anything you may want to do in the future. once the block is back in, it will be 1000% tougher to get done.
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Post by iThane » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:20 pm

DetergentCandy wrote:At least now I know EVERYTHING will be new :D
i'm honestly freaking jealous.

this thread is becoming so full of win! wanna do my car next? :twisted:
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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:43 pm

NEON PARABOLA wrote:NOW is the time to paint/clean/replace anything you may want to do in the future. once the block is back in, it will be 1000% tougher to get done.
True story! I even installed the MPx blow off plate now cause I don't want to do it later when the turbo is in the car :P
If I could find a cheap 3" o2 housing i'd probably do that now as well. But I don't think it's worth the $90 for a new one.
I'm probably going to just redo the whole vacuum line system. I hear the stock lines are pretty poorly routed anyways.

Trying to think of anything and everything I can do right now. Painted valve cover and intake manifold. Solid motor mounts. Blow off plate. Timing belt, water pump, tensioner, and idler. Painted brackets. Any other suggestions?

iThane wrote:wanna do my car next? :twisted:
Bring the beers! :thumbup:
We'll make a month out of it :rofl:





It's so hard to find intake manifold bolts O.o
Will exhaust manifold bolts work just the same? Can I just get two sets?
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Post by SC62391 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:05 pm

Are you gonna post pics of the painted parts or make us wait until it's back together? :P
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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:22 pm

Hmmm...choices.

I guess it would make my decision a little easier. I dunno whether to grind the letters or just leave them painted the same color as the rest of the vc.
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