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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:12 am

Well, Serenity finally runs again! :D
I was at my parent's until 2:00 am. Totally worth it.

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Sadly the video I took of the start up might be corrupt :(
It sounded so nice!

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Zero miles >:3




Also, if you don't have the right tool, then make one!
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Tranny fluid is ATF+4. I didn't add the friction modifier. Partly because dealerships were closed today and I didn't want to wait.. But mostly because there seems to be a 50/50 split on the SRT forums on whether the modifier is needed or not. Some say ATF+4 is fine to run alone. Others say if the manual says to use it then you should use it.
I chose not to. I can always add it later.

Coolant is Prestone Extended Life. It's green, not gold/orange. It says it's good for ALL makes and models. So for right now, that's good enough. I could not find the special Chrysler coolant anywhere O.o

Oil is Mobil 1 10w30



Only things left are wheels and brakes, and front fascia.
Then I can give it a bath and get it aligned :D
I'll be driving it tomorrow <3
I can't believe it's been 2 months.
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Post by theColonel » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:42 am

:thumbup: I'm glad for you ... btw it's been an interesting progress log :)
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Post by Midnight_Rider » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:17 pm

Woo-hoo! :gears:
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Post by srtjesse » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:58 pm

yaaaaaay now you can by my s1 ecu woop woop
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2004 white dodge neon 2.4 DOHC swapped
2004 red dodge neon srt-4 gone :(
2000 flat black plymouth neon 2.0 DOHC swapped gone :(
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Post by SC62391 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:26 pm

Duuuuuuude, i want a ride :P

Nice rad pipe too :D
There's no "Man" in automatic

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Post by DetergentCandy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:21 pm

theColonel wrote::thumbup: I'm glad for you ... btw it's been an interesting progress log :)
Woo-hoo!
Hahah thanks. I'm not done with this log yet >:D

yaaaaaay now you can by my s1 ecu woop woop
Nooooo :(
Still recovering from the rebuild. I gotta be careful what I spend my money on for the next month. Otherwise i'd swipe it from you. :banghead:

Duuuuuuude, i want a ride

Nice rad pipe too
Lemme get it aligned first. And washed. It's so dirty! I'm embarrassed.
I was tempted to christen it with champagne after the first start-up :P
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20th Anniversary Golf GTI - Sold
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Post by srtjesse » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:37 pm

but its for your cars well being dude
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:13 am

1. Get rid of the green coolant, it's not good for D/C/J vehicles. It's too corrosive and chunks up. Get orange from the dealer and swap it out as soon as you're able.

2. 5w30 full syn oil, not 10w30

3. Add the FM to the ATF if you're going to use ATF. I have 127k on my trans internals with not one issue thus far. It has to be doing something right.

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Post by DetergentCandy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:05 pm

Well...looks come with a price I guess. My Home Depot radiator hose failed last night :banghead:
Saw my temp creep higher and higher and higher and I was like "O_O That's not right."
I patched it up and got some more coolant in there to get me back home, but i'm not gonna trust that hard pipe again. Picking up a new hose today and swapping it out. I may try the hard pipe again later down the road...but for now i'm ditching it.

LSP:
1. Considering i'm gonna be draining a little coolant to change the hose anyways, I'll just drain it all and change it to the orange stuff.

2. Currently running 5w30 conventional. I swapped the 10w30 synthetic last night for 5w30 dino cause I was told you never want to run synth during break-in.

3. I'm considering picking up the FM now since i've been having trouble shifting into second gear on deceleration.
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20th Anniversary Golf GTI - Sold
05 SRT-4 - New hotness


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Post by LowNSlow » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:46 pm

Weird, my HD pipe worked fine...
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Post by DetergentCandy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:27 pm

I'm not giving up completely. I'm just getting a replacement rubber hose for now so I can start driving it again :P
I'm pretty sure I tightened the clamps on the hard pipe too tightly and bent the end of the pipe in which gave the coolant enough passage to burst out. It was definitely my fault. This wasn't just a freak occurance. I'll make another one at some point. I just want it running right now ^^
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Post by bone-yard-racing » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:11 pm

Cliffnotes: Dexcool is a marketing exercise and is no better from a performance stand point than standard green coolant. Plus its cheaper and easier to get a 2am when you're most likely to need it.

I have over 100,000mi on various 2.0s and 2.4s with standard green coolant. DexCool and whatever Chrysler calls it is (ethylene glycol base) IS NOT a good thing it was devloped by Havoline and put into production cars for 4 reasons

1. Long shelf life.
2. Biodegradable in its unused state
3. Lacks Nitrites, borate, and, phosphate (less danger in ingesting small amounts)
4. 100,000mi + service life

None of these things are a performance advantage. Dexcool has been blamed for most GM headgasket issues over the years (northstar and quad4) Ford has had its share of issues with ethylene gold (Ford's branding for ethylene glycol) in the powerstroke and duratec engines.

Mixing dissimilar metals (Alumnium/Steel/Iron in the case of our engines) in an alkaline solution is going to cause corrosion of the softest metal (the head) The only way to stop this is to get as close to a neutral solution as possible I use a 40/60 blend of green coolant and DISTILLED water



5w30 is recomended that said multiweight oil (Xw-XX) is only the first number when its very cold. If its ever very cold in Phoenix change to 5w30 if not youre probably fine.



DO NOT ADD FRICTION MODIFIER it was added before any testing was done to make the quaffe diff quieter. Of course the quaffe and every other worm gear LSD shares nothing with the clutch type LSDs that Americans are used to and doesnt really make noise except for a faint gear whine when it has a heavy load (think full throttle and full stearing lock on a wet surface)

The friction modifier does one thing very well, it ruins ATF+4 there is a reason you are suppost to change every 18,000mi. I use Pennzoil synchromesh mixed 12:1 with Lucas oil stabilizer and half a bottle of eastwood ZDDP (zinc additive) Straight Snychromesh in a trans that isnt abused like mine is would be fine.


Chrysler built these 20,000 specialized cars on the same line at the same time that they built 300,000 very normal cars, many consessions were made to make is easier on the assembly line people the factory ATF+4 fill is one of them.
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:25 am

I'm going to go by what the engineers say and what has lasted me 127,000 miles plus with ZERO internal engine or transmission damage whatsoever in that mileage. But....do what you want, there's a shit load of misinformation in this log.

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Post by DetergentCandy » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:15 pm

I'm on track, Crystal :thumbup:

I changed the coolant over to the right stuff and added the fm.
Serenity is running beautifully. Fluids are level and temperatures are normal.
I'm pretty much paranoid every time I drive it, always smelling for smells and looking for smoke and listening for bad noises. It's an adventure :P
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:52 pm

For your shifter...a little tidbit to help line it up. Take off your center console and with the shifter in neutral on the driver's side you'll see a 10mm (I think if I remember right) nut facing you on the cross cable. Loosen this nut a bit but don't remove it, you'll see that it is adjustable. Put the shifter in third gear and re-tighten it.

That is your best alignment :)

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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:42 am

:D Right on! I'll get on that this weekend. I need to install the rest of my Boogers anyway.

Thanks! :thumbup:
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Post by Lantern04rt » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:47 am

DetergentCandy wrote::D Right on! I'll get on that this weekend. I need to install the rest of my Boogers anyway.

Thanks! :thumbup:

Finally decided to stop eating them huh?

:P jk man glad to see the car back together congrats!!
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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:41 am

Lantern04rt wrote:
DetergentCandy wrote::D Right on! I'll get on that this weekend. I need to install the rest of my Boogers anyway.

Thanks! :thumbup:

Finally decided to stop eating them huh?

:P jk man glad to see the car back together congrats!!

Come on, man! They're a great snack while you're doing engine work!
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:32 am

:rofl: !!!!!! Boogers are a super easy install and make a world of difference.

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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:37 pm

^^True story.
Already have the tranny bushings on. Was gonna do the shifter bushings at a later date, but I may as well do it now while I adjust the cable :D



The whole coolant exploding all over my engine is a huge bummer. The paint on my vc and intake mani didn't handle being splashed with coolant very well :/ They look like poo now :(





So I had a little free time at work. Decided I didn't want the shitty Autozone shift knob anymore. Made my own.
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Post by SC62391 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:41 pm

lol the shift knob is creepy. I like it :thumbup:

Where did you get the toy you made it out of?
There's no "Man" in automatic

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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:04 pm

I work with urethane plastics at work. And I have access to a 3D printer.
Friend of mine 3D sculpted it.
We printed it.
Made a mold.
And I poured a shift knob :3

Do you know who it is? >.>
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Post by Lantern04rt » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:14 pm

Mr clean? Kurt angle ? Bruce Willis?
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Post by SC62391 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:31 pm

I have no clue who it is, but that's awesome!

I've been wanting to make my own shift knob for a while.
There's no "Man" in automatic

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Post by DetergentCandy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:46 pm

Lantern04rt wrote:Bruce Willis?
:thumbup:
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:58 pm

So you like to rub Bruce's head and jam him into gear? :rofl:

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Post by Lantern04rt » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:22 pm

lol I was pretty sure it was bruce I was just gonna put that but the others were funny so I added them :rofl:

Do you yell out "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" while you shift ?
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Post by DetergentCandy » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:21 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:So you like to rub Bruce's head and jam him into gear? :rofl:
Bruce doesn't mind. He takes it like a man! :gears:

Do you yell out "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" while you shift ?
:D I certainly do now!
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Post by DetergentCandy » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:14 pm

Installed my Boogers and adjusted my cable!
Definitely an improvement! :thumbup:


I completely forgot I still have Blackula's trunk-lid carpet.
I removed it when I took the spoiler off and just never put it back on.
So...yay! I have carpeting :3
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And I picked up a fire extinguisher! I'm not gonna lose Serenity after all the work I did.
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05 SRT-4 - New hotness


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Post by iThane » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:35 am

Trunk lid carpet ftw :thumbup:

We should have a Nevada / Arizona cruise with your new car <3
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